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Subject: Re: The new version of Junior is significantly better

Author: Amir Ban

Date: 10:02:42 08/04/98

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On August 04, 1998 at 06:39:35, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 03, 1998 at 22:46:59, Amir Ban wrote:
>
>>On August 03, 1998 at 18:24:25, Komputer Korner wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>We are getting hung up on the null move issue. Crafty uses null move but is
>>>still a full width program. CM 5000/5500 and Rebel 9 are selective searchers.
>>>Yes null move is a form of selectivity, but it is so common even among the full
>>>width programs that I discount it as a test of whether a program is selective or
>>>not.
>>>--
>>>Komputer Korner
>>
>>
>>This is an exercise in circular logic. Your point is correct, because you assume
>>it is. There are no full-width searchers in existence, and if you grant the
>>title to null-movers like Fritz, then everyone is a full-width searcher.
>>
>>Amir
>
>
>
>there is one:  Deep Blue, which doesn't use null-move.  Cray Blitz is a close
>second with R=1, only one null allowed in any path, which means a one ply
>reduction max, no matter what...

I rest my case ! As I said, there are no full-width searchers in existence.
Besides, after three decades of computer chess theory and practice, I don't know
why anyone would want to be one.

Amir



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