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Subject: Re: WOW {Yawn}

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 20:43:54 07/01/02

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On July 01, 2002 at 23:37:21, Robin Smith wrote:

>On July 01, 2002 at 15:21:09, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On July 01, 2002 at 14:55:41, Albert Silver wrote:
>>
>>>On July 01, 2002 at 14:49:47, pavel wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 01, 2002 at 14:47:40, ERIQ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I'm not sure about you guys but I'm in shock !!
>>>>
>>>>Because how the PGN output looks?
>>>>
>>>>;)
>>>>cheers,
>>>>pavs
>>>
>>>Either that or because Hiarcs 8 on an Athlon 1200 lost to Junior 7 on a K6/450
>>>in a previous SSDF match.
>>
>>In a span of 4 games, we can expect anything to happen.  In the Ridderkerk
>>tournament, Quark 1.76 blasted Crafty 18.15 4-0.  I ran the same programs over
>>the weekend at G/90 and got:
>>
>>  Program            Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
>>1 Crafty-18.15     : 2522  143 105    24    56.2 %   2478   37.5 %
>>2 Quark v1.76beta  : 2478  105 143    24    43.8 %   2522   37.5 %
>>
>>I don't know why anyone would be in shock about any 4-0 result unless there were
>>at least a 500 ELO difference.
>
>Even for a 500 rating point difference, the weaker side should get 24% of the
>points.  If we simplify the math by ignoring draws, four games in a row would be
>.24^4=.0033 (or .33%  or 3.3 times out of 1000 four game matches).  So I am
>still not sure 4 wins in a row for a 500 rating point difference should cause
>shock.

I think it is 5% for 500 points.  24% is about 200 points difference.

So that would give 0.0532402^4 = 0.0000080344973720078203276816
Which is about 1 in 124463 trials.  It could happen, but rather shocking, I
think.  At least surprising.



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