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Subject: Re: WOW {Yawn}

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 03:53:26 07/02/02

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On July 01, 2002 at 18:20:06, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On July 01, 2002 at 17:22:45, stuart taylor wrote:
>[snip]
>>At 500 elo difference, one win (to the lower rated one) should be quite an
>>interesting happening (two draws would be more likely).
>>Two consecutive wins should be extremely unusual and a little suspect.
>>Three consecutive wins should be plenty cause for shock. Especially due to the
>>fact of them being consecutive, and the only games so far.
>>Four consecutive wins should be plenty grounds to consider it proven to be well
>>under 500 elo difference, or, some other equipment failing or virus.
>
>That's absurd.  Look at the error bars and you will see your term "proof" go
>poof.
>
>>I would never say such a thing if it were 4 wins amongst 7-8 games, although it
>>would normally be spread out amongst about 80 games. I think. But consecutivity
>>is very meaningful mathematicaly.
>>Machines don't have moods.
>
>No but they do have bugs.  And there may be a bad line exploited over and over
>again (intentionally or otherwise).  I have often seen the case where one engine
>with a superior ELO gets clobbered by a vastly inferior engine.

Well? That's exactly what I'm trying to say!
>
>>The wins being in blocks should in general look more
>>suspect than they are. Unless they are closely rated.
>
>I am sure you are right, but how big of a block is suspect?

Each single win (of weaker engine) of the same block makes it MUCH more suspect,
especially if it is an isolated block.
S.Taylor
>
>I am running a big contest now, etc.



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