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Subject: Re: Great test position from Dortmund qualifier: well done Gambit!

Author: George Sobala

Date: 13:39:22 07/06/02

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On July 06, 2002 at 15:22:41, John Merlino wrote:

>On July 06, 2002 at 14:48:52, George Sobala wrote:
>
>>Topalov v Lutz
>>
>>How long does it take for your engine to find Nxf6?
>>
>>Live on the ICC, I happened to have Gambit Tiger analyzing on aggressive mode on
>>a humble K6-2 450Mhz and it found the winning line *immediately*, whereas other
>>engines I tried subsequently such as Fritz7 and Hiarcs8 were struggling even
>>after several minutes on a Duron 800Mhz.
>>
>>[D]1r4k1/1q3pp1/r3b2p/p2N4/3R4/QP3P2/2P3PP/1K1R4 w - -
>
>I assume you mean Nf6+ rather than Nxf6? If so, then Chessmaster 9000 sees it in
>1:37 on a (relatively slow) PIII-600:
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:00	1/3	1.58	1515		1.Qc5 Bxd5 2.Rxd5 Re8
>0:00	1/4	1.81	6765		1.Qc5 Qb5 2.Rc4 Qxc5 3.Rxc5 Bxd5
>					4.Rdxd5
>0:00	1/5	1.67	33581		1.Qc5 Kh8 2.Nc7 Rc6 3.Rd8+ Rxd8
>					4.Rxd8+ Kh7
>0:01	1/6	1.53	92375		1.Qc5 Kh8 2.Qc3 Rc8 3.Rc4 Rac6
>					4.Rxc6 Qxc6 5.Qxc6 Rxc6
>0:03	1/7	1.50	222972		1.Qc5 Kh8 2.Qc3 Bf5 3.Kb2 Re8 4.Re1
>0:09	1/8	1.42	694778		1.Qc5 Kh8 2.Qc3 Rc6 3.Qd3 Rbc8
>					4.Nf4 Qb8 5.c4
>0:37	1/9	1.49	2926516		1.Qc5 Kh7 2.Qc3 Rc6 3.Qd3+ g6 4.g4
>					Rbc8 5.Rd2 Bxd5 6.Rxd5
>1:19	2/10	1.39	6403907		1.Qc5 Kh7 2.Qc3 Rc6 3.Qd3+ g6 4.g4
>					Rbc8 5.Rd2 f5 6.Re2 Bxd5 7.Rxd5
>1:37	2/10	3.06	8039436		1.Nf6+ gxf6 2.Rd8+ Rxd8 3.Rxd8+
>					Kh7 4.Qf8 Kg6 5.Qg8+ Kh5 6.Qg7
>					f5 7.Rd4 Bc8 8.g3 Qe7 9.Rh4+ Qxh4
>					10.Qxf7+ Rg6 11.gxh4
>2:28	3/11	3.12	13185138	1.Nf6+ gxf6 2.Rd8+ Rxd8 3.Rxd8+
>					Kh7 4.Qf8 Kg6 5.Qg8+ Kh5 6.Qg7
>					f5 7.Rd4 Bc8 8.g3 Qe7 9.Rh4+ Qxh4
>					10.Qxf7+ Rg6 11.gxh4 Be6 12.Qc7
>
>jm


Yes - Nf6+ (sorry, misprint - over-enthusiasm triumphed over typing)

For the record, Gambit Tiger (aggressive) got it in 0.4 secs on a Duron 800! It
was fun watching it live at the ICC: for many, it was not an easy line to
visualise even with computer prompting. I was puzzled that (on a slow processor)
I seemed to be the first to point it out, but obviously Gambit/aggressive spots
this particular sac much sooner than other engines.



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