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Subject: Re: So Vincent........

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:31:05 07/08/02

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On July 08, 2002 at 00:53:46, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On July 07, 2002 at 21:54:10, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On July 07, 2002 at 10:47:32, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On July 07, 2002 at 03:14:41, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 07, 2002 at 03:08:32, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 07, 2002 at 02:49:49, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 07, 2002 at 02:46:08, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On July 07, 2002 at 02:13:33, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>How many nps does Diep get on 60 CPUs?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I imagine it's not exactly "fine tuned", seeing as how testing time was short.
>>>>>>>>Any thoughts about this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Grats on the first round win!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Slate
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Slate. I thought Diep was running on a supercomputer capable of 1 Teraflop,
>>>>>>>running on 1024 processors?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.chessbase.com/events/events.asp?pid=141
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.sara.nl/hpc.www/teras/description/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Terry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They only allowed him to use 60 CPUs.  Time on this machine is $30 an hour per
>>>>>>processor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>For 60 CPUs it would be $1800 an hour.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>For 1024 CPUs it would be $30,720 an hour.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I took this all from Chessbase's website.  Sorry, I don't have the link handy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ah...I see, thanks! It would kick serious ass on 1024 cpus!:o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Terry
>>>>
>>>>Oh, and you think it won't on 60 CPUs?!
>>>
>>>I didn't say that. Of course it would be strong. Let's say it would have been
>>>interesting if he had use of all that processing power.
>>>
>>>Terry
>>
>>
>>The problem is that almost _everyone_ is making gross assumptions about how
>>easy it is to use 1024 processors.  Or even 64.  Take it from someone that
>>has been doing this for _years_.  It is not easy.  Throw in NUMA and it
>>becomes even harder...
>>
>>This is what used to really gripe me about comments made about Cray Blitz.
>>
>>"oh, you just had hardware faster than everybody else's..."
>>
>>Which was true, of course.  But _using_ that hardware took years of effort to
>>get things reasonably optimized...
>
>Sorry Robert! It wasn't meant to sound like this....sigh...
>
>Terry


I wasn't really directing my response to you specifically.  It was more of
a "comment in general".  Using the machine Vincent had was not going to be
as easy as he thought.  I tried to warn him...



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