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Subject: Re: Was Junior's loss due to opening book error?!

Author: Omid David

Date: 14:58:29 07/08/02

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On July 08, 2002 at 17:56:05, Uri Blass wrote:

>On July 08, 2002 at 17:44:25, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On July 08, 2002 at 17:32:25, Omid David wrote:
>>
>>>On July 08, 2002 at 17:23:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 08, 2002 at 16:59:55, Omid David wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 08, 2002 at 16:53:09, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 08, 2002 at 16:18:31, Omid David wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It seems to me that Junior lost the game to Shredder due to an opening book
>>>>>>>error, since I doubt if Junior would wander its king on d2 deliberatly...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I do not think that Junior lost because of book error.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I know that Junior evaluates itself as better after the opening and I believe
>>>>>>that Junior has enough compensation in mobility of pieces for the fact that the
>>>>>>king went to d2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I believe that Junior lost against shredder because of mistakes many moves after
>>>>>>it left book.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>
>>>>>But what made it prefer d2 to d1?
>>>>
>>>>After Kd1 Bc5 the move Nf2+ is a threat.
>>>>After Kd2 Bc5 Nf2 is not a problem.
>>>
>>>After Kd1 Bc5 white can play Rf1 followed by h3
>>
>>You are right
>>
>>Movei also does not understand the problem with Kd1
>>
>>it wants to play Kd1 at depth 12 with evaluation of 0.50 for white.
>>
>>Maybe Junior wanted to protect the knight at c3 with the king because
>>the main line of Movei is Kd1 Bd4 Rf1 Bxc3 bxc3 and 2 pawns at c2 and c3 are not
>>good for white pawn structure but I still think that a king at c3 is a bigger
>>problem.
>>
>>12 50 170379 252916839 e1d1 f2d4 h1f1 d4c3 b2c3 f8e8 h2h3 g4f6 c1e3 c8d7 e2b2
>>d7a4 d1e1 b7b6
>>12 50 172900 256523400 e1d1 f2d4 h1f1 d4c3 b2c3 f8e8 h2h3 g4f6 c1e3 c8d7 e2b2
>>d7a4 d1e1 b7b6
>>
>>Uri
>
>Note that if white is afraid about pawn structure then it can choose Kd1 Bd4 Kc2
>Bxc3 Kxc3 based on movei's analysis
>
>13 40 288903 425006195 e1d1 f2d4 d1c2 d4c3 c2c3 d8e7 c3c2 g4f6 c1d2 b8a6 d2c3
>c8g4 c3e5 e7e5 f3e5 g4e2 d3e2 f6e4
>
>Uri

Don't waste you time with computer analysis, in such positions humans can play
far better than computers ;-)



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