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Subject: Re: Was Junior's loss due to opening book error?!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 15:30:04 07/08/02

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On July 08, 2002 at 18:17:55, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On July 08, 2002 at 17:58:29, Omid David wrote:
>
>>On July 08, 2002 at 17:56:05, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On July 08, 2002 at 17:44:25, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 08, 2002 at 17:32:25, Omid David wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 08, 2002 at 17:23:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 08, 2002 at 16:59:55, Omid David wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On July 08, 2002 at 16:53:09, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On July 08, 2002 at 16:18:31, Omid David wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It seems to me that Junior lost the game to Shredder due to an opening book
>>>>>>>>>error, since I doubt if Junior would wander its king on d2 deliberatly...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I do not think that Junior lost because of book error.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I know that Junior evaluates itself as better after the opening and I believe
>>>>>>>>that Junior has enough compensation in mobility of pieces for the fact that the
>>>>>>>>king went to d2.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I believe that Junior lost against shredder because of mistakes many moves after
>>>>>>>>it left book.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But what made it prefer d2 to d1?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>After Kd1 Bc5 the move Nf2+ is a threat.
>>>>>>After Kd2 Bc5 Nf2 is not a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>After Kd1 Bc5 white can play Rf1 followed by h3
>>>>
>>>>You are right
>>>>
>>>>Movei also does not understand the problem with Kd1
>>>>
>>>>it wants to play Kd1 at depth 12 with evaluation of 0.50 for white.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe Junior wanted to protect the knight at c3 with the king because
>>>>the main line of Movei is Kd1 Bd4 Rf1 Bxc3 bxc3 and 2 pawns at c2 and c3 are not
>>>>good for white pawn structure but I still think that a king at c3 is a bigger
>>>>problem.
>>>>
>>>>12 50 170379 252916839 e1d1 f2d4 h1f1 d4c3 b2c3 f8e8 h2h3 g4f6 c1e3 c8d7 e2b2
>>>>d7a4 d1e1 b7b6
>>>>12 50 172900 256523400 e1d1 f2d4 h1f1 d4c3 b2c3 f8e8 h2h3 g4f6 c1e3 c8d7 e2b2
>>>>d7a4 d1e1 b7b6
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>Note that if white is afraid about pawn structure then it can choose Kd1 Bd4 Kc2
>>>Bxc3 Kxc3 based on movei's analysis
>>>
>>>13 40 288903 425006195 e1d1 f2d4 d1c2 d4c3 c2c3 d8e7 c3c2 g4f6 c1d2 b8a6 d2c3
>>>c8g4 c3e5 e7e5 f3e5 g4e2 d3e2 f6e4
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Don't waste you time with computer analysis, in such positions humans can play
>>far better than computers ;-)
>
>You are speaking to a national correspondence champion who uses computers to
>analyze positions.  Or is the smiley an indication that you already know that.

I believe that it is not important.
Only computer programs with small help from humans can win the correspondence
championship today.

I tried to think about a possible reason for computers to choose Kd2.

Uri





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