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Subject: Re: Is Hardware Over -valued? Why is Diep doing so Poorly?

Author: Keith Evans

Date: 10:58:40 07/11/02

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On July 11, 2002 at 13:01:14, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 11, 2002 at 12:19:40, Keith Evans wrote:
>
>>On July 11, 2002 at 11:57:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On July 11, 2002 at 09:03:20, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>>The Hsu team of IBM did avoid it by introducing GM Benjamin into the testings.
>>>>IMO he had to check nonsense and contradictions of the play in relation to the
>>>>books.
>>>
>>>Apples and oranges.  The DB guys _never_ tried to tune their program while
>>>running at 1/1000th the speed of the real machine.  That was the problem we
>>>fell into.  They had access to their machine all the time and could test in
>>>any way they wanted.  We had little access to the Cray except right before
>>>an annual computer chess tournament, so all our development was _forced_
>>>onto a VAX, which was far slower.
>>>
>>
>>How did you do your Cray development on a Vax? Did Cray supply an emulator?
>>
>>Regards,
>>Keith
>
>
>No.  We were a FORTRAN-based program, and we just ran the cray-optimized
>version right on the vax after compiling with the vax compiler.  It was
>horribly inefficient since the vax didn't know beans about vectors but it
>ran perfectly, just slowly...
>
>We always had FORTRAN versions of everything, even if we rewrote things in
>Cray Assembly for speed.  That way we could change the fortran first (a far
>easier task) to check out a new idea.  If it worked, we then had to modify
>the assembly code (a much harder task).

So the only time that you had to test your Cray assembly code was right before a
tournament? I guess that you carefully checked each others work then.

Regards,
Keith



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