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Subject: Re: Is this a draw or a win? Playoff - Second game

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 14:16:29 07/11/02

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On July 11, 2002 at 17:02:08, Uri Blass wrote:

>On July 11, 2002 at 16:13:57, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>[D]6k1/1p5p/4pQp1/p3P3/2Pp4/4b1P1/1P2KNqP/8 b - - 0 44
>>
>>Could SHREDDER win in this position?
>>
>>Rolf Tueschen
>
>
>Some analysis by old shredder on p850(64 Mbytes hash)
>After 1...Qxf2+ 2.Qxf2 Bxf2 3.Kxf2
>
>New position
>[D]6k1/1p5p/4p1p1/p3P3/2Pp4/6P1/1P3K1P/8 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Shredder 5.32:
>
>3...d3
>  -+  (-2.92)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>3...d3
>  -+  (-2.92)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>3...d3 4.Ke3
>  µ  (-1.32)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
>3...d3 4.Ke3
>  -+  (-1.67)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
>3...Kf7 4.h4
>  -+  (-1.69)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2
>  -+  (-1.74)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7
>  -+  (-1.67)   Depth: 3/6   00:00:00
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3
>  -+  (-1.56)   Depth: 4/8   00:00:00
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 g5 5.Kd3 a4
>  µ  (-1.31)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Kg7 5.Kd3 Kh6
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 a4 5.Kd3 a3 6.bxa3
>  ³  (-0.26)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
>3...a4 4.Ke2 a3 5.bxa3 Kf7
>  ³  (-0.37)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
>3...a4 4.Ke2 a3 5.bxa3 Kf7
>  ³  (-0.37)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
>3...a4 4.Ke2 a3 5.bxa3 Kf7 6.Kd3
>  ³  (-0.26)   Depth: 6/12   00:00:00  2kN
>3...a4 4.Ke2 a3 5.bxa3 Kh8
>  =  (-0.01)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  4kN
>3...a4 4.Ke2 Kf7 5.Kd3 Ke7 6.Kxd4 h5
>  ²  (0.40)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  5kN
>3...Kf7 4.Kf3
>  ²  (0.38)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  6kN
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 h5 6.Kxd4 b6
>  ²  (0.35)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  8kN
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 h5 6.Kxd4 b6 7.b3
>  ²  (0.29)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:00  13kN
>3...a4 4.Kf3
>  ²  (0.27)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:00  13kN
>3...a4 4.Kf3 d3 5.Ke3 d2 6.Kxd2 h5 7.h4
>  ²  (0.27)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:00  15kN
>3...a4 4.Ke2 g5 5.Kd3 g4 6.Kxd4 Kf7 7.c5 Ke7
>  ²  (0.39)   Depth: 9/18   00:00:00  27kN
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 h5 6.b3
>  ²  (0.38)   Depth: 9/18   00:00:00  29kN
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 h5 6.b3 g5 7.Kxd4 b6
>  ²  (0.37)   Depth: 9/18   00:00:00  32kN
>3...Kg7 4.Kf3 Kh6 5.h4 d3 6.Ke4 d2 7.g4
>  ²  (0.36)   Depth: 9/18   00:00:00  36kN
>3...Kg7 4.Kf3 Kh6 5.Ke4 Kg5 6.Kxd4 Kf5 7.b3 b6
>  =  (0.25)   Depth: 9/18   00:00:00  39kN
>3...Kg7 4.Kf3 Kh6 5.Ke4 Kg5 6.Kxd4 Kf5 7.h3 h5 8.b3
>  =  (0.18)   Depth: 10/20   00:00:00  49kN
>3...Kg7 4.Kf3 Kh6 5.Ke4 Kg5 6.Kxd4 Kf5 7.h3 h5 8.b3 b6
>  =  (0.25)   Depth: 11/22   00:00:00  69kN
>3...Kg7 4.Kf3 Kh6 5.Ke4 Kg5 6.Kxd4 Kf5 7.b3 b6 8.h3 h5 9.h4
>  =  (0.02)   Depth: 12/24   00:00:00  100kN
>3...Kg7 4.Kf3 Kh6 5.Ke4 Kg5 6.Kxd4 Kf5 7.b3 b6 8.h3 g5 9.g4+ Kf4
>  =  (0.21)   Depth: 13/25   00:00:00  145kN
>3...Kg7 4.Kf3 Kh6 5.Ke4 Kg5 6.Kxd4 Kf5 7.b3 b6 8.c5 bxc5+ 9.Ke3
>  =  (-0.04)   Depth: 14/26   00:00:00  213kN
>3...Kg7 4.Kf3 Kh6 5.Ke4 Kg5 6.Kxd4 Kf5 7.c5 a4 8.Kc3 Kxe5 9.b3
>  ³  (-0.54)   Depth: 14/26   00:00:00  249kN
>3...Kg7 4.g4 Kh6 5.h4 d3 6.Ke3 a4 7.Kxd3 b6 8.Kc3 a3 9.bxa3 b5 10.cxb5
>  ³  (-0.54)   Depth: 14/26   00:00:01  455kN
>3...Kg7 4.g4 Kh6 5.h4 d3 6.Ke3 a4 7.Kxd3 a3 8.bxa3 b6 9.c5 b5 10.Kc3 b4+ 11.axb4
>  ³  (-0.29)   Depth: 15/27   00:00:01  542kN
>3...Kg7 4.g4 Kh6 5.h4 d3 6.Ke3 a4 7.Kxd3 a3 8.bxa3 b6 9.c5 b5 10.Kc3 b4+ 11.axb4
>  =  (0.21)   Depth: 15/27   00:00:02  679kN
>3...Kg7 4.g4 g5 5.Ke2 h5 6.h3 hxg4 7.hxg4 a4 8.c5 Kf7 9.Kd3 Ke7 10.Kxd4 Kd7
>11.Ke4
>  ²  (0.30)   Depth: 15/27   00:00:03  1063kN
>3...h5 4.Ke2 Kg7 5.Kd3 Kh6 6.Kxd4 Kg5 7.g4
>  ²  (0.29)   Depth: 15/27   00:00:04  1421kN
>3...h5 4.Ke2 Kg7 5.Kd3 Kh6 6.Kxd4 Kg5 7.Kc5 Kf5 8.Kd6 a4 9.h3 g5 10.c5 g4
>  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 15/27   00:00:04  1453kN
>3...h5 4.Kf3 g5 5.Ke4 b6 6.g4 hxg4 7.c5 bxc5 8.Kd3 a4 9.h4 gxh4 10.Kc4
>  =  (0.21)   Depth: 16/28   00:00:10  3214kN
>3...g5 4.Kf3 h5 5.Ke4 b6 6.g4 hxg4 7.c5 bxc5 8.Kd3 a4 9.h4 gxh4 10.Kc4
>  =  (0.20)   Depth: 16/28   00:00:12  3964kN
>3...g5 4.Kf3 h5 5.Ke4 b6 6.Kxd4 Kf7 7.h3 Ke7 8.g4 h4 9.b3 Kd7 10.Ke4 Kc6 11.Kd4
>  =  (0.20)   Depth: 16/28   00:00:12  3978kN
>3...g5 4.Kf3 Kf7 5.g4 Ke7 6.Ke4
>  =  (0.03)   Depth: 17/29   00:00:17  5872kN
>3...g5 4.Kf3 Kf7 5.g4 Ke7 6.Ke4 Kd7 7.Kxd4 Kc6 8.b3 b5 9.h3 Kb6 10.Kc3 a4 11.Kb4
>axb3 12.Kxb3
>  =  (-0.14)   Depth: 18/30   00:00:21  6952kN
>3...g5 4.Kf3 Kf7 5.g4 Ke7 6.Ke4 Kd7 7.Kxd4 Kc6 8.b3 b5 9.h3 Kb6 10.Kc3 Kc5
>11.cxb5 Kxb5 12.Kd2 Kc5
>  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 19/31   00:00:28  9447kN, tb=6
>3...g5 4.Kf3 Kf7 5.Ke4 g4 6.Kxd4 Kg6 7.Kc5 Kf5 8.Kd6 a4 9.c5 h5 10.Kc7 Kxe5
>11.Kxb7 Kd5 12.Kb6 e5
>  =  (0.08)   Depth: 20/32   00:00:46  15540kN, tb=25
>3...g5 4.Kf3 Kf7 5.Ke4 g4 6.Kxd4 b6 7.Ke4 Kg6 8.Kf4 Kh5 9.b3 h6 10.Ke3 Kg5
>11.Ke4 Kg6 12.Kf4 a4 13.bxa4
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 21/33   00:01:23  27130kN, tb=117
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h4 a4 8.g4 b5 9.cxb5+ Kxb5 10.h5 gxh5
>11.Ke4
>  =  (-0.01)   Depth: 21/33   00:01:38  31761kN, tb=169
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h3 g5 8.b3 h5 9.g4 h4 10.Ke3 Kc5 11.Kd3
>  ³  (-0.34)   Depth: 21/33   00:01:43  33463kN, tb=171
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h3 g5 8.b3 b5 9.h4 bxc4 10.Kxc4 g4
>11.h5 h6 12.Kd4 Kb5 13.Kd3
>  ³  (-0.59)   Depth: 22/34   00:01:50  35954kN, tb=198
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h3 g5 8.Kc3 Kc5 9.b3 b5 10.cxb5 Kxb5
>11.Kb2 Kb4 12.h4 g4 13.h5 Kc5
>  µ  (-0.71)   Depth: 22/34   00:01:56  38068kN, tb=218
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h3 g5 8.h4 g4 9.Kc3 Kc5 10.b3 h6 11.h5
>b5 12.cxb5 Kxb5 13.Kb2
>  µ  (-0.95)   Depth: 23/35   00:02:34  49627kN, tb=598
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h3 g5 8.h4 g4 9.Kc3 Kc5 10.b3 h6 11.h5
>b5 12.cxb5 Kxb5 13.Kb2
>  µ  (-1.20)   Depth: 24/36   00:03:26  64935kN, tb=1245
>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h3 g5 8.b3 h5 9.h4
>  µ  (-1.20)   Depth: 24/36   00:04:14  77058kN, tb=2583
>
>(blass, tel-aviv 11.07.2002)
>
>
>Uri

More analysis:

New position
[D]6k1/1p5p/4p1p1/p3P3/2Pp4/6P1/1P3K1P/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 5.32:

3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h3 g5 8.b3 Kb6 9.h4 g4 10.h5 h6 11.Ke4
Kc5 12.Kd3 b5 13.Ke3 bxc4 14.Kf4 cxb3
  µ  (-1.30)   Depth: 25/37   00:09:17  158065kN, tb=12757
3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h3 g5 8.b3 Kb6 9.h4 gxh4 10.gxh4 h5
11.Kd3 Kc5 12.Kc2 a4 13.Kc3 axb3 14.Kd2
  -+  (-1.55)   Depth: 26/38   00:14:23  241794kN, tb=27236
3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h4 a4 8.g4
  -+  (-2.01)   Depth: 26/38   00:16:56  285863kN, tb=33660

(blass, tel-aviv 11.07.2002)


Uri

• Re: Is this a draw or a win? Playoff - Second game Rolf Tueschen 15:10:38 07/11/02
  • Re: Is this a draw or a win? Playoff - Second game Uri Blass 15:46:35 07/11/02

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