Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 15:10:38 07/11/02
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On July 11, 2002 at 17:16:29, Uri Blass wrote: >On July 11, 2002 at 17:02:08, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On July 11, 2002 at 16:13:57, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >> >>>[D]6k1/1p5p/4pQp1/p3P3/2Pp4/4b1P1/1P2KNqP/8 b - - 0 44 >>> >>>Could SHREDDER win in this position? >>> >>>Rolf Tueschen >> >> >>Some analysis by old shredder on p850(64 Mbytes hash) >>After 1...Qxf2+ 2.Qxf2 Bxf2 3.Kxf2 >> >>New position >>[D]6k1/1p5p/4p1p1/p3P3/2Pp4/6P1/1P3K1P/8 b - - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by Shredder 5.32: >> >>3...d3 >> -+ (-2.92) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 >>3...d3 >> -+ (-2.92) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 >>3...d3 4.Ke3 >> µ (-1.32) Depth: 2/4 00:00:00 >>3...d3 4.Ke3 >> -+ (-1.67) Depth: 2/4 00:00:00 >>3...Kf7 4.h4 >> -+ (-1.69) Depth: 2/4 00:00:00 >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 >> -+ (-1.74) Depth: 2/4 00:00:00 >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 >> -+ (-1.67) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00 >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 >> -+ (-1.56) Depth: 4/8 00:00:00 >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 g5 5.Kd3 a4 >> µ (-1.31) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00 >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Kg7 5.Kd3 Kh6 >> µ (-0.79) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00 >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 a4 5.Kd3 a3 6.bxa3 >> ³ (-0.26) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00 >>3...a4 4.Ke2 a3 5.bxa3 Kf7 >> ³ (-0.37) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00 >>3...a4 4.Ke2 a3 5.bxa3 Kf7 >> ³ (-0.37) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00 >>3...a4 4.Ke2 a3 5.bxa3 Kf7 6.Kd3 >> ³ (-0.26) Depth: 6/12 00:00:00 2kN >>3...a4 4.Ke2 a3 5.bxa3 Kh8 >> = (-0.01) Depth: 7/14 00:00:00 4kN >>3...a4 4.Ke2 Kf7 5.Kd3 Ke7 6.Kxd4 h5 >> ² (0.40) Depth: 7/14 00:00:00 5kN >>3...Kf7 4.Kf3 >> ² (0.38) Depth: 7/14 00:00:00 6kN >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 h5 6.Kxd4 b6 >> ² (0.35) Depth: 7/14 00:00:00 8kN >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 h5 6.Kxd4 b6 7.b3 >> ² (0.29) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 13kN >>3...a4 4.Kf3 >> ² (0.27) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 13kN >>3...a4 4.Kf3 d3 5.Ke3 d2 6.Kxd2 h5 7.h4 >> ² (0.27) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 15kN >>3...a4 4.Ke2 g5 5.Kd3 g4 6.Kxd4 Kf7 7.c5 Ke7 >> ² (0.39) Depth: 9/18 00:00:00 27kN >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 h5 6.b3 >> ² (0.38) Depth: 9/18 00:00:00 29kN >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 h5 6.b3 g5 7.Kxd4 b6 >> ² (0.37) Depth: 9/18 00:00:00 32kN >>3...Kg7 4.Kf3 Kh6 5.h4 d3 6.Ke4 d2 7.g4 >> ² (0.36) Depth: 9/18 00:00:00 36kN >>3...Kg7 4.Kf3 Kh6 5.Ke4 Kg5 6.Kxd4 Kf5 7.b3 b6 >> = (0.25) Depth: 9/18 00:00:00 39kN >>3...Kg7 4.Kf3 Kh6 5.Ke4 Kg5 6.Kxd4 Kf5 7.h3 h5 8.b3 >> = (0.18) Depth: 10/20 00:00:00 49kN >>3...Kg7 4.Kf3 Kh6 5.Ke4 Kg5 6.Kxd4 Kf5 7.h3 h5 8.b3 b6 >> = (0.25) Depth: 11/22 00:00:00 69kN >>3...Kg7 4.Kf3 Kh6 5.Ke4 Kg5 6.Kxd4 Kf5 7.b3 b6 8.h3 h5 9.h4 >> = (0.02) Depth: 12/24 00:00:00 100kN >>3...Kg7 4.Kf3 Kh6 5.Ke4 Kg5 6.Kxd4 Kf5 7.b3 b6 8.h3 g5 9.g4+ Kf4 >> = (0.21) Depth: 13/25 00:00:00 145kN >>3...Kg7 4.Kf3 Kh6 5.Ke4 Kg5 6.Kxd4 Kf5 7.b3 b6 8.c5 bxc5+ 9.Ke3 >> = (-0.04) Depth: 14/26 00:00:00 213kN >>3...Kg7 4.Kf3 Kh6 5.Ke4 Kg5 6.Kxd4 Kf5 7.c5 a4 8.Kc3 Kxe5 9.b3 >> ³ (-0.54) Depth: 14/26 00:00:00 249kN >>3...Kg7 4.g4 Kh6 5.h4 d3 6.Ke3 a4 7.Kxd3 b6 8.Kc3 a3 9.bxa3 b5 10.cxb5 >> ³ (-0.54) Depth: 14/26 00:00:01 455kN >>3...Kg7 4.g4 Kh6 5.h4 d3 6.Ke3 a4 7.Kxd3 a3 8.bxa3 b6 9.c5 b5 10.Kc3 b4+ 11.axb4 >> ³ (-0.29) Depth: 15/27 00:00:01 542kN >>3...Kg7 4.g4 Kh6 5.h4 d3 6.Ke3 a4 7.Kxd3 a3 8.bxa3 b6 9.c5 b5 10.Kc3 b4+ 11.axb4 >> = (0.21) Depth: 15/27 00:00:02 679kN >>3...Kg7 4.g4 g5 5.Ke2 h5 6.h3 hxg4 7.hxg4 a4 8.c5 Kf7 9.Kd3 Ke7 10.Kxd4 Kd7 >>11.Ke4 >> ² (0.30) Depth: 15/27 00:00:03 1063kN >>3...h5 4.Ke2 Kg7 5.Kd3 Kh6 6.Kxd4 Kg5 7.g4 >> ² (0.29) Depth: 15/27 00:00:04 1421kN >>3...h5 4.Ke2 Kg7 5.Kd3 Kh6 6.Kxd4 Kg5 7.Kc5 Kf5 8.Kd6 a4 9.h3 g5 10.c5 g4 >> ² (0.28) Depth: 15/27 00:00:04 1453kN >>3...h5 4.Kf3 g5 5.Ke4 b6 6.g4 hxg4 7.c5 bxc5 8.Kd3 a4 9.h4 gxh4 10.Kc4 >> = (0.21) Depth: 16/28 00:00:10 3214kN >>3...g5 4.Kf3 h5 5.Ke4 b6 6.g4 hxg4 7.c5 bxc5 8.Kd3 a4 9.h4 gxh4 10.Kc4 >> = (0.20) Depth: 16/28 00:00:12 3964kN >>3...g5 4.Kf3 h5 5.Ke4 b6 6.Kxd4 Kf7 7.h3 Ke7 8.g4 h4 9.b3 Kd7 10.Ke4 Kc6 11.Kd4 >> = (0.20) Depth: 16/28 00:00:12 3978kN >>3...g5 4.Kf3 Kf7 5.g4 Ke7 6.Ke4 >> = (0.03) Depth: 17/29 00:00:17 5872kN >>3...g5 4.Kf3 Kf7 5.g4 Ke7 6.Ke4 Kd7 7.Kxd4 Kc6 8.b3 b5 9.h3 Kb6 10.Kc3 a4 11.Kb4 >>axb3 12.Kxb3 >> = (-0.14) Depth: 18/30 00:00:21 6952kN >>3...g5 4.Kf3 Kf7 5.g4 Ke7 6.Ke4 Kd7 7.Kxd4 Kc6 8.b3 b5 9.h3 Kb6 10.Kc3 Kc5 >>11.cxb5 Kxb5 12.Kd2 Kc5 >> = (-0.15) Depth: 19/31 00:00:28 9447kN, tb=6 >>3...g5 4.Kf3 Kf7 5.Ke4 g4 6.Kxd4 Kg6 7.Kc5 Kf5 8.Kd6 a4 9.c5 h5 10.Kc7 Kxe5 >>11.Kxb7 Kd5 12.Kb6 e5 >> = (0.08) Depth: 20/32 00:00:46 15540kN, tb=25 >>3...g5 4.Kf3 Kf7 5.Ke4 g4 6.Kxd4 b6 7.Ke4 Kg6 8.Kf4 Kh5 9.b3 h6 10.Ke3 Kg5 >>11.Ke4 Kg6 12.Kf4 a4 13.bxa4 >> = (0.00) Depth: 21/33 00:01:23 27130kN, tb=117 >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h4 a4 8.g4 b5 9.cxb5+ Kxb5 10.h5 gxh5 >>11.Ke4 >> = (-0.01) Depth: 21/33 00:01:38 31761kN, tb=169 >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h3 g5 8.b3 h5 9.g4 h4 10.Ke3 Kc5 11.Kd3 >> ³ (-0.34) Depth: 21/33 00:01:43 33463kN, tb=171 >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h3 g5 8.b3 b5 9.h4 bxc4 10.Kxc4 g4 >>11.h5 h6 12.Kd4 Kb5 13.Kd3 >> ³ (-0.59) Depth: 22/34 00:01:50 35954kN, tb=198 >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h3 g5 8.Kc3 Kc5 9.b3 b5 10.cxb5 Kxb5 >>11.Kb2 Kb4 12.h4 g4 13.h5 Kc5 >> µ (-0.71) Depth: 22/34 00:01:56 38068kN, tb=218 >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h3 g5 8.h4 g4 9.Kc3 Kc5 10.b3 h6 11.h5 >>b5 12.cxb5 Kxb5 13.Kb2 >> µ (-0.95) Depth: 23/35 00:02:34 49627kN, tb=598 >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h3 g5 8.h4 g4 9.Kc3 Kc5 10.b3 h6 11.h5 >>b5 12.cxb5 Kxb5 13.Kb2 >> µ (-1.20) Depth: 24/36 00:03:26 64935kN, tb=1245 >>3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h3 g5 8.b3 h5 9.h4 >> µ (-1.20) Depth: 24/36 00:04:14 77058kN, tb=2583 >> >>(blass, tel-aviv 11.07.2002) >> >> >>Uri > >More analysis: > >New position >[D]6k1/1p5p/4p1p1/p3P3/2Pp4/6P1/1P3K1P/8 b - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Shredder 5.32: > >3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h3 g5 8.b3 Kb6 9.h4 g4 10.h5 h6 11.Ke4 >Kc5 12.Kd3 b5 13.Ke3 bxc4 14.Kf4 cxb3 > µ (-1.30) Depth: 25/37 00:09:17 158065kN, tb=12757 >3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h3 g5 8.b3 Kb6 9.h4 gxh4 10.gxh4 h5 >11.Kd3 Kc5 12.Kc2 a4 13.Kc3 axb3 14.Kd2 > -+ (-1.55) Depth: 26/38 00:14:23 241794kN, tb=27236 >3...Kf7 4.Ke2 Ke7 5.Kd3 Kd7 6.Kxd4 Kc6 7.h4 a4 8.g4 > -+ (-2.01) Depth: 26/38 00:16:56 285863kN, tb=33660 > >(blass, tel-aviv 11.07.2002) > > >Uri Uri, thanks, could you analyse the variation after Black's Kc6? Then you'll see that Black is much better. Fritz 7 gets quickly to values of 2 or even 3 for Black. It's a typical Zugzwang. Rolf Tueschen
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