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Subject: Re: Repetitions: The Rules

Author: Richard Pijl

Date: 15:45:53 07/12/02

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On July 12, 2002 at 11:52:13, Dan Wulff wrote:

>>> I play white, you play black. The game goes: 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Ng1 Ng8 3. Nf3 Nf6
>>>4. Ng1 Ng8 5. Nf3 Nf6 6. Ng1 Ng8 7. Nf3 Nf6 ... It's perfectly legal because 3rd
>>>repetition must be claimed by the players. In this game, either you or me can
>>>claim draw by third repetition whenever we want, with or without making a move,
>>>because there have been some positions (4 in this case) repeated 3 or more
>>>times.
>>>  I'm 100% sure about this point.
>>>
>>You're right. Either something changed in the rules over time or my memory is
>>failing me ;-). From the FIDE rules:
>>
>>'9.2 The game is drawn, upon a correct claim by the player having the move, when
>>the same position, for at least the third time (no necessarily by sequential
>>repetition of moves)
>>a) is about to appear, if he first writes his move on his scoresheet and
>>declares to the arbiter his intention to make this move, or
>>b) has just appeard, and the player claiming the draw has the move.
>>
>>Positions as in (a) and (b) are considered the same, if the same player has the
>>move, pieces of the same kind and colour occupy the same squares, and the
>>possible moves of all the pieces of both players are the same.
>>Positions are not the same if a pawn that could have been captured en passant
>>can no longer be captured or if the right to castle has been changed temporarily
>>or permanently.'
>
>You are wrong........ Read the above again: "is about to appear" or "has just
>appeared". This implies that you CANNOT claim the draw if you play on from the
>3rd repetition, and for example claim a draw ten moves later.
>

Hi,
He said 'in this game' where in that special case the conditions were satisfied
on any move (after 4.Ng1) as all positions occurred for at least three times ...
:)
When you had your chance of claiming a draw, it's over until it happens again.

>Greetings
>
>Dan Wulff
>(The Gandalf Team)



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