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Subject: Against computerchess fantasies about Elo numbers

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 02:47:29 07/13/02

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On July 13, 2002 at 04:02:29, Jan Kiwitter wrote:

>On July 13, 2002 at 00:20:02, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>Hi Dan
>
>>I think he is around IM level, if I recall correctly.  (2100 German rating)
>
>In this case your information is wrong. I myself have about 2150 German rating
>and I am far from playing at IM level.
>
>Regards
>Jan

Some simple truths:

° Human players with FIDE (not US or Britain or some national rankings) Elo
level of about 2000 or 2100 are incredibly strong amateurs. They all know more
about chess than any commercial or amateur program.

° The most important difference between such human amateurs and the progs is not
their chess but the huge opening books stuff. No amateur is able to know the
details of so many openings.

° If such a human expert meets a computer program (with the books) he normally
has no chance - exception if he could prepare special anti-computerchess.

° IM start around 2400! With 2150 you are lightyears away from IM. IM know all
about chess. Know openings until move 30 into the endgames. The main difference
to GM is only the lack of eidetics and/or personal problems or lacks in chess.

° The hybris in computerchess with the belief that machine's numbers (mainly
through the books) are identical with their chess strength is very irritating.
Again, human experts from 2100 upwards know more about chess than machines. But
only the GM with eidetics (not all have it of course) have a chance to deal with
the machine's books.

° Interesting law: the better the human, say GM, the less interesting he will
find anti-computerchess. Hence the less successfull he might be in show acts.
But of course companies like ChessBase will never invite 'Eduards' to play. They
invite 'Kramniks'.

° Personal wish: CC knowies should learn to have more respect for human
chessplayers from 1900 upwards. They all know very much about chess and more
important are able to play good chess 'live', not guided by displayed evals.

°° The idiocy that commercial CC is already at 2700 or more is ridiculous. See
my challenging theory of the outcome if real GM once started to develop _real_
anti-computerchess.

°° If PC chess progs had to qualify in human tournament chess from the base
upwards chessplayers would start to develop methods of resistance in terms of
chess.


Rolf Tueschen



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