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Subject: Re: position from Warp-Junior (round 8)

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 08:48:28 07/13/02

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On July 13, 2002 at 03:28:12, Peter McKenzie wrote:

between 2:10 and 3:00 i get a fail high for f5 at depth=11
which after 4:27 gets mainline. nearly 2 pawns better than
other moves. hardware: dual 1.6Ghz k7

>On July 12, 2002 at 13:31:31, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>I didn't see any discussion of this game, the pgn was not available for awhile.
>>It appears to me that the game was drawn, but Warp picked the wrong move in the
>>following position (fxg5).  If Bxa5 draws, then Junior was indeed lucky to win
>>the tournament.
>
>the game started about an hour late because the junior guys had a hard disk
>failure and were installing all their tablebases on the new machine.  i was
>quite happy for this to happen.
>
>my random thoughts on the game, although i haven't analysed it yet and won't be
>for a while as i am now on holiday for a couple of weeks;
>
>the game itself was exciting.  warp played the first dubious move with nfg5, but
>it wasn't too serious and the game was still about level.  then junior played a
>series of suspect moves such as ra6, h5, h4.  warp had a good game, and then i
>think junior unsoundly sacrificed a pawn.  warp accepted it and defended well,
>winning another pawn in the process.
>
>so warp is 2 pawns up but junior has a nice blockade and there is no easy way
>for warp to make progress.  probably warp should sacrifice the c-pawn, or even
>sacrifice the exchange.  i think the position is objectively winning but my
>program doesn't see a good plan.
>
>eventually we get near the 50-move rule and also repetitions are an issue.  warp
>has the idea of moving is bishop over to a3 to push the c-pawn.  good idea, but
>not sound because of juniors wonderful f5.  at this late stage of the game the
>thinking time is much reduced, so warp is not searching deep enough to see f5
>coming.  soon after f5 warp thinks it is a draw but a few moves later i think it
>thought it could avoid the draw and maintain a small plus which obviously was
>incorrect.  junior was showing a draw score for a while too, so i suspect you
>are right and a draw was possible.  in the end warp just wasn't up to the task,
>and junior played very well.  i was satisfied with how my program handled the
>middlegame, but i must work on getting a bit more search depth to be fully
>competitive.  of course, playing with 1.7ghz vs 2x2ghz doesn't make it easy
>either.
>
>i wonder how long programs need for f5, good test position i suspect.
>
>congratulations to the junior team, their program has very sharp teeth.
>
>you might guess the shift key doesn't work on this machine...
>
>>
>>[D]3q3k/5Q2/7r/p2N1Pp1/P1r1pPP1/4P2p/3B3P/6K1 w - - 0 67



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