Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 16:34:08 07/13/02
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On July 13, 2002 at 18:53:23, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>On July 13, 2002 at 18:46:39, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>On July 13, 2002 at 18:15:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On July 13, 2002 at 12:46:37, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 13, 2002 at 10:47:45, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 12, 2002 at 21:34:43, Telmo Escobar wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 12, 2002 at 14:29:17, Louis Fagliano wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>He seems to have replaced John van der Wiel as the leading computer killer (at
>>>>>>>least on this board). Rebel managed to overcome van der Wiel's anti-computer
>>>>>>>chess style and beat him in a challenge match. Since Ed Schroeder has retired
>>>>>>>from playing challenge matches against humans, is there anyone with a copy of
>>>>>>>Rebel Century 4.0 and a fast computer (sorry, mine's only 500 MHz) and would
>>>>>>>want to challenge Mr. Nemeth to a match?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try to win using his strategies and you'll see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to meet Nemeth in the Fritz 7 server, to have him playing any of the
>>>>>>CB engines I have in my computer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You might be surprised. There was a player named "mercilous" on ICC that
>>>>>wrecked holy hell on _all_ programs a couple of years ago.
>>>>
>>>>You forget one important thing and that the programs of today have better
>>>>hardware and it make things harder for humans.
>>>>
>>>>Of course you can win after enough tries but this strategy is not going to work
>>>>in most of the cases and GM's are not going to try it when they know that they
>>>>may have maybe probability of 10% to win the machine and 90% to get problems.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>
>>>Better hardware won't do a thing against "mercilous". He played 1 0, 2 0 and
>>>3 0 games. At those time controls, no hardware is fast enough to see that open-
>>>ing the file will get you mated.
>>
>>here is a game from this Typ on ICC --> Mercilous:
>>
>>game is from 1997 (I think)!
>>
>>mercilous (2150) - Data (2660) [A00]
>>
>> 1.d3 d5 2.Ld2 Sc6 3.h3 e5 4.g3 Lc5 5.e3 Sf6 6.Sa3 0-0 7.h4 Lxa3 8.bxa3 Dd6
>>9.Lh3 Lxh3 10.Txh3 Dxa3 11.Sf3 e4 12.Sg5 h6 13.d4 Dd6 14.Lb4 Dxb4+ 15.Kf1 Tab8
>>16.Th2 hxg5 17.hxg5 Se8 18.Dh5 Db5+ 19.Kg2 Df1+ 20.Txf1 f5 21.g6 Sd6 22.Dh8# 1-0
>>
>>
>>This moves also are on a Hardware like 600 MHz a joke, or not?
>>
>>This Human cannot beat with this moves a Program in Year 2001-2002 , I do it.
>>
>>Eduard
>
>Here 2 games from Fritzserver, my games (wolkenlos is my handle):
>
>
>[Event "Wertungspartie, 5m + 0s"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "2001.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Wolkenlos"]
>[Black "Yoshida, Fritz6"]
>[ECO "B21"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>
>1. e4 {2} c5 {0} 2. d4 {2} cxd4 {0} 3. h3 {2} Nc6 {9}
>4. Bc4 {18 } Nf6 {16} 5. Na3 {1} Nxe4 {11} 6. Bxf7+ {1}
>Kxf7 {0} 7. Qh5+ {1 } Ke6 {5} 8. Qg4+ {1} Kd5 {13} 9. c4+
>{1} dxc3 {4} 10. f3 {1} Nd6 {6} 11. Ne2 {5} Ke5 {0} 12. Bg5
>{2} h5 {18} 13. f4+ {1} Kd5 {7} 14. Nxc3+ {3} Kc5 {8}
>15. Qe2 {13} Kb6 {0} 16. Nd5+ { 2} Ka5 {5} 17. b4+ {4} Nxb4
>{6} 18. Qd2 {1} b5 {8} 19. Qxb4+ {3} Ka6 {0} 20. Rc1 {3}
>Bb7 {10} 21. Nc7+ {1} Qxc7 {2} 22. Rxc7 {1} Rc8 {5}
>23. Rxc8 {3} Bxc8 {0} 24. O-O {5} Bb7 {0} 25. Rd1 {3} Bc6
>{6} 26. Rxd6 {6} Kb7 {3} 27. Bxe7 {9} Bxe7 {3 } 28. Rxd7+
>{1} Bxd7 {4} 29. Qxe7 {1} Kc8 {2} 30. Qc5+ {1} Kd8 {1}
>31. Nxb5 {Yoshida rinde 1} 1-0
>
>And here I played in my real name on Fritzserver against Deep Fritz 30' game:
>
>
>[Event "30m + 0s,Fritzserver"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "2001.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "EduardNemeth"]
>[Black "Smurskie, DeepFritz2x1Ghz"]
>[WhiteElo "2210"]
>[ECO "B23"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>
>1. e4 {6} c5 {0} 2. Nc3 {2} a6 {0} 3. g3 {3} b5 {0} 4. Bg2
>{5} Bb7 {0} 5. d3 {1} e6 {0} 6. Bd2 {3} d5 {46} 7. Nge2
>{40} b4 {37} 8. Nb1 {5} Bd6 {33} 9. O-O {15} Nf6 {63}
>10. exd5 {58} Bxd5 {38} 11. Nf4 {108} Bxg2 {43} 12. Nxg2
>{8} O-O {76} 13. Bc1 {27 } Nc6 {45} 14. Nd2 {21} Nd4 {37}
>15. Nb3 {47} a5 {51} 16. Ne3 {71} a4 {35} 17. Nxd4 {3} cxd4
>{10} 18. Nc4 {2} Qc7 {57} 19. Bg5 {91} Ne4 {60} 20. Bd2
>{255} Nxd2 {40} 21. Qxd2 {16} Rab8 {23} 22. b3 {33} a3 {45}
>23. Rae1 {29} Be7 {36} 24. Qe2 {47} Rb5 {32} 25. Qe4 {121}
>Bf6 {20} 26. Kg2 {25} Rc8 {20} 27. Re2 {34} Rd5 {74}
>28. Ree1 {47} Qc6 {22} 29. Re2 {7} Rc5 {47} 30. Qxc6 {4}
>R5xc6 {6} 31. Rfe1 {4} Kf8 {64} 32. Re4 {6} h5 {33} 33. h3
>{10} Ke7 {19} 34. R4e2 {13} g5 {23} 35. g4 {9} Rh8 {38}
>36. Rh1 {3} Rcc8 {32} 37. Ree1 {9} Rh7 {48} 38. f3 {3} Rch8
>{ 13} 39. Ref1 {20} e5 {24} 40. Re1 {15} Ke6 {20} 41. Ref1
>{2} Be7 {11} 42. Re1 {1} Bd6 {20} 43. Ref1 {57} Rh6 {13}
>44. Re1 {3} R8h7 {8} 45. Ref1 {1} Be7 {9} 46. Re1 {1} f6
>{7} 47. Ref1 {1} Bc5 {12} 48. Re1 {EduardNemeth bietet
>Remis 2} Rh8 {0} 49. Ref1 {1} Bd6 {13} 50. Re1 {1} R8h7 {8}
>51. Ref1 {1} Kd5 {11} 52. Re1 { 1} Rh8 {19} 53. Ref1 {1}
>Bc5 {7} 54. Re1 {1} Be7 {12} 55. Ref1 {1} Kc5 {11} 56. Re1
>{1} R6h7 {13} 57. Ref1 {1} Kd5 {11} 58. Re1 {1} Bd6 {6}
>59. Ref1 {1} Rc7 {21} 60. Re1 {1} Rhh7 { 22} 61. Ref1 {3}
>h4 {5} 62. Re1 {9} Bc5 {0} 63. Re4 {6} Rc8 { 2} 64. Rhe1
>{2} Kc6 {6} 65. R1e2 {2} Rhc7 {7} 66. Re1 {0} Re7 {4}
>67. R1e2 {1} Kb5 {9} 68. Re1 {1} Rc6 {5} 69. R1e2 {1} Rb7
>{6} 70. Re1 {1} Bd6 {8} 71. R1e2 {1} Rd7 {5} 72. Re1 {2}
>Kc5 {4} 73. R1e2 {1} Kd5 {7} 74. Re1 {1} Rdc7 {6} 75. R1e2
>{1} Rc8 {4} 76. Re1 {1} Rb8 {3} 77. R1e2 {1} Rg8 {4}
>78. Re1 {1} Rg7 {4} 79. R1e2 {1} Kc5 {3} 80. Re1 {1} Bc7
>{4} 81. R1e2 {1} Rg8 {5} 82. Re1 {1} Rc8 {5} 83. R1e2 {1}
>Bd6 {4} 84. Re1 {1} Ra6 {2} 85. R1e2 {1} Ra7 {EduardNemeth
>bietet Remis 4} 86. Re1 {3} Kc6 {1} 87. R1e2 {1} Rac7 {7}
>88. Re1 {1} Be7 {4} 89. R1e2 {4} Bf8 {5} 90. Re1 {1} Kb5
>{3} 91. R1e2 {1} Rc6 {4} 92. Re1 {1} R8c7 {2} 93. R1e2 {1}
>Bc5 {4} 94. Re1 {1} Ra6 {4} 95. R1e2 {1 } Rcc6 {2} 96. Re1
>{1} Ra8 {3} 97. R1e2 {0} Rac8 {5} 98. Re1 {1} Bd6 {2}
>99. R1e2 {1} Ra6 {7} 100. Re1 {1} Kc6 {4} 101. R1e2 {1} Kd5
>{3} 102. Re1 {1} Rf8 {3} 103. R1e2 {2} Rf7 {0 } 104. Re1
>{1} Rc6 {1} 105. R1e2 {1} Bc7 {2} 106. Re1 {1} Rf8 {2}
>107. R1e2 {1} Bd6 {3} 108. Re1 {1} Rc7 {0} 109. R1e2 {1}
>Rb8 {1} 110. Re1 {1} Rb5 {0} 111. R1e2 {1} Rcc5 {2} 1/2-1/2
>
>Belive you now?
>
>Regards,
>Eduard
Here:
[Event "Blitz:10'"]
[Site "Stuttgart"]
[Date ""]
[Round "?"]
[White "Nemeth, Eduard"]
[Black "Crafty 18.10"]
[ECO "B20"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. e4 {58MB, General.ctg. P600 0} c5 {0} 2. Na3 {3} Nc6
{0.31/10 23} 3. d4 {4} cxd4 {-0.62/10 17} 4. Bc4 {6} Nf6
{-0.69/10 11} 5. h3 {3} Nxe4 {-2.02/9 16} 6. Bxf7+ {6} Kxf7
{-3.56/4 0} 7. Qh5+ {4} Ke6 {-3.74/10 11} 8. Qg4+ {3} Kd5
{-3.74/9 12} 9. c4+ {4} dxc3 { -1.82/9 65} 10. Be3 {7} e5
{-1.85/8 10} 11. Rd1+ {4} Nd4 { -1.74/9 10} 12. Bxd4 {1}
exd4 {-1.92/9 11} 13. Qf5+ {2} Kc6 { -1.61/10 10} 14. Qxe4+
{3} d5 {-2.06/9 9} 15. Qxd4 {3} Qa5 { -0.69/9 64} 16. Rc1
{12} Bb4 {-0.13/9 0} 17. Nf3 {7} Re8+ { -0.03/8 11}
18. Ne5+ {10} Rxe5+ {-0.14/9 1} 19. Qxe5 {3} Kb6 { 0.00/9
7} 20. O-O {4} cxb2 {0.00/9 6} 21. Qxb2 {7} Qxa3 {0.39/10
9} 22. Qd4+ {12} Ka6 {0.39/10 0} 23. Rb1 {10} Bf8 {0.29/9
14} 24. Qxd5 {10} Qc5 {0.38/10 0} 25. Qd3+ {8} b5 {0.29/11
1} 26. Rfc1 {19} Qf5 {0.44/10 0} 27. Rc6+ {13} Ka5 {2.72/10
3} 28. Qd8+ {9} Ka4 {2.63/11 1} 29. Qd1+ {21} Ka5 {2.90/11
26} 30. a4 {18} Bd7 { 4.26/10 12} 31. Rxb5+ {32} Qxb5
{5.21/13 0} 32. axb5 {1} Bxc6 { 5.51/11 6} 33. bxc6 {1} Bc5
{5.74/10 7} 34. c7 {9} Rf8 {6.49/11 0} 35. Qd8 {56} Bxf2+
{6.96/14 0} 36. Kh2 {2} Rxd8 {7.04/14 5} 37. cxd8=Q+ {2}
Bb6 {6.92/11 6} 38. Qg5+ {5} 1-0
No trojan:
[D]r1bq1b1r/pp1ppkpp/2n5/7Q/3pn3/N6P/PPP2PP1/R1B1K1NR b KQ -
Eduard
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