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Subject: Re: game position: Cerbro vs Horizon

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 12:11:00 07/14/02

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>>>Ron
>>
>>Chessmaster 9000 says Qxd5 is the winning move, although it DOES pick Nd2
>>between 9 and 18 seconds.
>>
>>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>>0:00	1/3	-1.43	6303		38...Rb4 39.Qh5 Kxg7 40.Rg1+ Kf8
>>					41.Qh8+ Ke7
>>0:00	1/4	-1.43	9541		38...Rb4 39.Qh5 Kxg7 40.Rg1+ Kf8
>>					41.Qh8+ Ke7
>>0:00	1/5	-1.13	34963		38...Rb4 39.Qh5 Kxg7 40.Nd4 Qb6
>>					41.Rg1+ Kf8 42.Qh8+ Ke7
>>0:02	1/6	-1.41	123632		38...Rb4 39.Qh5 Kxg7 40.Nd4 Qc7
>>					41.Nc6 Nf2+ 42.Kg2
>>0:04	1/7	-0.95	298883		38...Rb4 39.Qh5 Kxg7 40.Nd4 Qb6
>>					41.Qe5+ Qf6 42.Qxe4 Qxd4 43.Qxd4+
>>					Rxd4 44.Rxb2 Rxd5
>>0:06	1/7	-1.27	459123		38...f6 39.Qf5 Rb4 40.Rg1 Nf2+
>>					41.Kg2 Ng4 42.Qe6+ Kxg7 43.Nc3
>>0:09	1/7	-1.78	670828		38...Nd2 39.Qh5 Rh4 40.Rxb2 Qxb2
>>					41.Qxh4 Qa1+ 42.Ng1 Qxg1+ 43.Kxg1
>>					Nf3+ 44.Kf2 Nxh4
>>0:13	1/8	-3.17	1017561		38...Nd2 39.Qh5 Rh4 40.Rxb2 Qxb2
>>					41.Qxh4 Qa1+ 42.Ng1 Qxg1+ 43.Kxg1
>>					Nf3+ 44.Kf2 Nxh4 45.d6 Kxg7 46.d7
>>0:18	1/8	-3.74	1383153		38...Qxd5 39.Rxb2 Ng3+ 40.Kg2 Nxe2
>>					41.Qxd5 Nf4+ 42.Kf3 Nxd5 43.Rg2
>>					Rf4+ 44.Ke2
>>0:24	1/9	-3.81	1876955		38...Qxd5 39.Rxb2 Ng3+ 40.Kg2 Nxe2
>>					41.Qxd5 Nf4+ 42.Kf3 Nxd5 43.Rg2
>>					Rf4+ 44.Ke2 a5
>>0:38	2/10	-3.70	3007760		38...Qxd5 39.Rxb2 Ng3+ 40.Kg2 Nxe2
>>					41.Qxd5 Nf4+ 42.Kf3 Nxd5 43.Rg2
>>					f5 44.Rg6 Ra3+ 45.Kf2
>>
>>Forcing Nd2 shows a draw score.
>>
>>jm
>
>When the new ChessMaster is released I will be buying it. I love the quick finds
>of great moves. Your analysis shows me that you are doing something right in
>ChessMaster (and that Uri is doing something right in Movei) that Horizon and
>Crafty are doing wrong. Maybe Gerd has a handle on this with his mention of
>disabling double null-move when king safety is involved.
>
>Ron


My latest Crafty beta is picking up Qxd5 in 68 seconds - thanks in part to
Gerd's seggestion above.

White(1): 6k1/pq3pP1/8/3P4/r3n3/5Q2/1p2N2P/1R5K b - - 0 38

       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    8  |   |   |   |   |   |   | *K|   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    7  | *P| *Q|   |   |   | *P| P |   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    6  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    5  |   |   |   | P |   |   |   |   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    4  | *R|   |   |   | *N|   |   |   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    3  |   |   |   |   |   | Q |   |   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    2  |   | *P|   |   | N |   |   | P |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    1  |   | R |   |   |   |   |   | K |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h

Black(1): go
              clearing hash tables
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 10:00 (10:00)
         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
starting thread 1
         (2)    5->   0.46   1.34   1. ... f6 2. Nf4 f5 3. Nh5 Nd2 4. Qd1
                                    <HT>
                6     0.63   1.54   1. ... f6 2. Nf4 Qxg7 3. d6 Rc4 4.
                                    Qe3 f5 <HT>
         (2)    6->   1.10   1.54   1. ... f6 2. Nf4 Qxg7 3. d6 Rc4 4.
                                    Qe3 f5 <HT>
                7     1.74   1.62   1. ... f6 2. Nf4 Qxg7 3. Qe2 Qg5 4.
                                    Nd3 Ra1 5. Qxb2 <HT>
                7     2.89     ++   1. ... Ng5!!
         (4)    7->   3.07   2.01   1. ... Ng5
         (3)    8     3.55   2.02   1. ... Ng5 2. Qf5 Ra1 3. Nf4 Rxb1+
                                    4. Qxb1 Kxg7 5. h4 Ne4 6. Nd3 Ng3+
                                    7. Kg2 <HT>
                8     5.39   2.17   1. ... Nd2 2. Qh5 Rh4 3. Rxb2 Qxb2
                                    4. Qxh4 Qa1+ 5. Ng1 Qxg1+ 6. Kxg1 Nf3+
                                    7. Kf2 Nxh4 <HT>
         (4)    8->   6.82   2.17   1. ... Nd2 2. Qh5 Rh4 3. Rxb2 Qxb2
                                    4. Qxh4 Qa1+ 5. Ng1 Qxg1+ 6. Kxg1 Nf3+
                                    7. Kf2 Nxh4 <HT>
                9     7.60     ++   1. ... Nd2!!
                9    12.44   2.65   1. ... Qxd5 2. Rxb2 Ng3+ 3. Kg2 Nxe2
                                    4. Qxd5 Nf4+ 5. Kf3 Nxd5 6. Rg2 Rf4+
                                    7. Ke2 Rd4 <HT>
                9->  12.44   2.65   1. ... Qxd5 2. Rxb2 Ng3+ 3. Kg2 Nxe2
                                    4. Qxd5 Nf4+ 5. Kf3 Nxd5 6. Rg2 Rf4+
                                    7. Ke2 Rd4 <HT>
               10    16.35   2.89   1. ... Qxd5 2. Rxb2 Ng3+ 3. Kg2 Nxe2
                                    4. Qxd5 Nf4+ 5. Kf3 Nxd5 6. Rg2 Rf4+
                                    7. Ke2 Re4+ 8. Kd2 f5 <HT>
               10    21.50     ++   1. ... Nd2!!
               10    28.93   3.60   1. ... Nd2 2. Qf5 Rh4 3. Rd1 b1=Q 4.
                                    Rxb1 Nxb1 5. Ng3 Rh7 6. Nh5 Rxh5 <HT>
         (2)   10->  30.13   3.60   1. ... Nd2 2. Qf5 Rh4 3. Rd1 b1=Q 4.
                                    Rxb1 Nxb1 5. Ng3 Rh7 6. Nh5 Rxh5 <HT>
               11    38.57     --   1. ... Nd2
               11     1:07  -0.08   1. ... Nd2 2. Qh5 Rh4 3. Rxb2 Qxb2
                                    4. Qxh4 Qb1+ 5. Ng1 Qe4+ 6. Qxe4 Nxe4
                                    7. h4 Kxg7 8. Kg2 f5 <HT>
               11     1:08     ++   1. ... Qxd5!!
               11     1:43   3.89   1. ... Qxd5 2. Rxb2 Ng3+ 3. Kg2 Nxe2
                                    4. Qxd5 Nf4+ 5. Kf3 Nxd5 6. Rg2 Ra3+
                                    7. Ke4 Nf6+ 8. Ke5 Nh5 <HT>
         (2)   11->   1:51   3.89   1. ... Qxd5 2. Rxb2 Ng3+ 3. Kg2 Nxe2
                                    4. Qxd5 Nf4+ 5. Kf3 Nxd5 6. Rg2 Ra3+
                                    7. Ke4 Nf6+ 8. Ke5 Nh5 <HT>



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