Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 16:21:34 07/14/02
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On July 14, 2002 at 16:51:43, Andreas Guettinger wrote: >On July 14, 2002 at 06:55:36, Eduard Nemeth wrote: > >>On July 14, 2002 at 06:07:47, Andreas Guettinger wrote: >> >>>Well, nothing surprising about this. Almost 10 years ago exactly this kind of >>>games with Bxf7 appeared in CSS (Computer Schach & Spiele) as anti computer >>>strategies. >> >>Computerschach - uns Spiele lese ich nicht mehr, und vor 10 Jahren (1993 ?) >>hatte ich noch keinen PC - und las PC Zeitschriften auch nicht. >> >>Kannst Du sagen auf welcher Seite sich das in der CSS befindet - ich kenne >>Leute die alle Ausgaben haben - dann kann ich nachprüfen ob die Variante >>übereinstimmmt. >> >>Danke, >> >>Eduard >> > >Not to be misunderstood: I'm in no way saying that you replayed an old variant >of CSS, and I don't think to have seen your variant before. But there was a >discussion going on about this kind of games once in CSS. I think Saturnino >Jirotka came up with this kind of games in CSS, i.e.: > >CSS 4/1992 p. 6: Jirotka - ChessMachine 512 KB: >1.e4 e5 2.Lc4 Sf6 3.Sf3 Sxe4 4.Sc3 Sxc3 5.Lxf7+ Kxf7 6.Sxe5+ Ke6 7.Df3 Df6 >8.dxc3 Dxe5+ 9.Le3 Df5 10.Dxf5+ Kxf5 11.0-0-0 Ld6 12.g4+ Kxg4 13.Thg1+ Kh3 14.f4 >Lf8 15.Tg3+ Kh4 16.Tg5 Lc5 17.Lxc5 d6 18.Lf2+ Kh3 19.Td3+ Kxh2 20.Lg1+ Kh1 >21.Td2 Lg4 22.Txg4 Tf8 23.Th2+ 1-0 > >There are tons more examples from S. Jirotka: >CSS 1/1993 p. 8 >CSS 5/1993 p. 6 (Jirotka - Fritz2) >etc. > >There was also a great series "Charly's Chess Show" in the years 91-93 fom >Friedhelm Jungmann in CSS where a virtual ape "Charly" beat the chess engines. > >A lot of these games use the computers error to go to Ke6 after Lxf7, but this >should be programmed in a clever engine not to do. I was surprised to see that >state of the art engines like Crafty 18.15 still do this. I don't know if Mr. >Hyatt read CSS, but I think he should remeber this anti computer kind of games. >:) > >PS: By the way I think you do a good job to show this lack of knowledge of the >engines. Thanks. Dennoch: diese Variante ist mir unbekannt (Zweispringerspiel) , die meinige ist bekanntlich ein Sizilianer, ich habe von niemand etwas abgeschaut. Wenn ich das wollte so könnte ich etliche Partien im WRG oder dem BDG bringen die sich seit Jahren im der Rochade Europa befinden! Translate (bablefish): Nevertheless: this variant is me unknown (two-Springer play), the my is as well known a Sicilian, I from nobody something cribbed from. If I that wanted so could I some portions in the WRG-gambit or the BDG-gambit bring for years in the Rochade Europa to be! Eduard
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