Author: Odd Gunnar Malin
Date: 11:34:01 07/15/02
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On July 15, 2002 at 07:14:52, Steve Coladonato wrote: >On July 14, 2002 at 17:37:40, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote: > >>On July 14, 2002 at 17:01:46, Steve Coladonato wrote: >> >>>On July 14, 2002 at 14:25:09, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote: >>> >>>>On July 14, 2002 at 12:42:31, Steve Coladonato wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 13, 2002 at 14:17:54, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On July 13, 2002 at 12:44:05, Will Singleton wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>From what I can see, CA 6.1 exports game bases in a pseudo-pgn format. Does >>>>>>>anyone know of a program which will read these and output standard pgn? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Will >>>>>> >>>>>>If it is the special escape strings, you can turn it off with unmarking >>>>>>tools\options\general\use ca markup in pgn. >>>>>> >>>>>>For other problems you can use the extract32 tool. I guess you will find it on >>>>>>most download pages. >>>>>> >>>>>>oddGM >>>>> >>>>>The biggest problem I have is that CA exports a "Z0" symbol in the pgn file. I >>>>>don't know what it is but SCID doesn't like it. Do you happen to know what this >>>>>symbol is? Unmarking the "use ca markup in pgn" option doesn't remove it. >>>>> >>>>>Steve >>>> >>>>Hi. >>>> >>>>I don't think I have seen this, do you have an sample? >>>> >>>>Anyway after you turn off the marker you have to restart CA to get it to work. >>>> >>>>I have made a command for pgn-files in the explorer assosiation box so I can run >>>>a converter tool just by right clicking on them and select a convert command. >>>> >>>>Here is the cmd file that is running: >>>> >>>>del tmp0tmp.pgn >>>>d:\Utility\PGNBeauty.exe %1 tmp0tmp.pgn >>>>del %1 >>>>d:\utility\Extract32.exe -a%1 tmp0tmp.pgn >>>>del tmp0tmp.pgn >>>> >>>> >>>>PGNBeaty is just a little tool to remove unneeded pgn headers (empty headers). >>>> >>>>I run it whenever I shall share some pgn-files with other's. >>>> >>>> >>>>I took some heavy gamefiles with comment and variation but could not find your >>>>"Z0" in any of them. >>>> >>>>Odd Gunnar >>> >>> >>>If you export the "Elite" database to PGN format, you should get a "Z0" symbol >>>at the following game. >>> >>>Error reading move in game Polgar Judit (GM) (HUN) - Granda Zuniga Julio E >>>(PER), 1995: Kh8 >>> >>>There are many games in the file that have that "Z0" symbol. I didn't restart >>>CA after turning off the marker so that may be where the problem is. I'll check >>>it and get back to you. (I'm mainly running Linux and have to reboot to >>>Windows). >>> >>>Steve >> >> >>Ok, I see it. >> >>30.Nd6 Bxf6 31.Qxf7+ Z0 ( 31...Kh8 32.Ne8 Ra6 33.Bf8 $18 ) 1-0 >> >>Z0 is a nullmove. >> >>As I can see so isn't this covered by the standard. Chessbase have their own >>implemation of these too. I don't know about scid, you could try to see how it >>save a null move in pgn and use a replace tool on the file. >> >>I didn't follow the pgn debat on rgcc but if this wasn't up someone should >>suggest some sort of nullmove/anymove for Steven Edwards so he gets it in when >>he revise the standard. Hopefully with something that is easy to do a text >>replace on CA/CB files to get them compatible. >> >>Odd Gunnar > > >I restarted CA and exported the file again but the "Z0" symbol is still there. >I can write a sed or awk script to remove the "Z0" symbol. Is the revision to >the pgn standard coming soon and is there someplace you can take a look at the >proposed changes? > >Steve Only thing I know is what you find at deja. I don't know if this link would work here but do a search for: subject=pgn and author=Edwards for the last 3 month and you find the little debat. http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=10&as_scoring=r&hl=no&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google-s%F8k&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=pgn&as_uauthors=Edwards&as_umsgid=&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=m3&as_miny=1981&as_minm=5&as_mind=12&as_maxy=2002&as_maxm=7&as_maxd=15 There was at least one that suggested null-move. You could try to ask in rgcc or email him directly, you find his email address in the same deja search. Odd Gunnar
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