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Subject: Re: Some Maastricht testpositions

Author: John Merlino

Date: 13:29:55 07/15/02

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On July 15, 2002 at 15:44:55, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>[D]r2qrbk1/5pp1/p1bp3p/1p2p3/1P2P1Q1/2P4P/P1B2PP1/R3RNK1 b - - 0 21
>
>Sjeng played d5, the same move was played by Ponomariov earlier
>this year in Linares against Adams. Alex Kure criticised it as being
>premature (citing Adams). Sjeng got into a worse position and Brutus
>slowly worked its way through a win.
>
>How long does your favorite program need to avoid it?

Chessmaster 9000, on a PIII-600, does not see a better move than d5 after five
minutes....

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	-0.26	536		21...d5 22.exd5 Bxd5 23.Rad1
0:00	1/3	-0.29	786		21...Bd7 22.Qf3 Be6 23.Ne3
0:00	1/3	-0.40	1163		21...Bb7 22.Ne3 Rc8
0:00	1/4	-0.59	3650		21...Bb7 22.Bb3 Rc8 23.Qf5 Qc7
0:00	1/5	-0.30	9587		21...Bb7 22.Ne3 Rc8 23.Nf5 Qf6
0:00	1/5	-0.44	12115		21...Rc8 22.Bb3 Bb7 23.Qf3 Qc7
					24.Ng3
0:00	1/6	-0.44	23413		21...Rc8 22.Bb3 Bb7 23.Qf3 Qc7
					24.Ng3
0:01	1/7	-0.25	79357		21...Rc8 22.Bb3 Qg5 23.Qxg5 hxg5
					24.Rac1 Be7 25.Rcd1 Bb7
0:03	1/8	-0.19	210217		21...Rc8 22.Bb3 Bb7 23.Qf3 Qd7
					24.Ng3 Qc7 25.Rad1
0:05	1/8	-0.32	320824		21...d5 22.Ne3 d4 23.Rad1 Rc8 24.Nf5
					Qf6 25.cxd4 Bxb4
0:14	1/9	-0.18	878657		21...d5 22.exd5 Qxd5 23.Be4 Qc4
					24.Qf3 Rac8 25.Nd2 Bxe4 26.Nxe4
0:32	1/10	-0.21	2140736		21...d5 22.exd5 Qxd5 23.Bb3 Qd6
					24.Rad1 Qc7 25.Qg6 Bb7 26.Ne3 Rad8
1:27	2/11	-0.10	5894732		21...d5 22.exd5 Qxd5 23.Ne3 Qe6
					24.Qxe6 Rxe6 25.Bb3 Rd6 26.Ng4
					e4 27.Rad1 Rxd1 28.Rxd1
3:47	3/12	0.01	15951467	21...d5 22.exd5 Qxd5 23.Ne3 Qe6
					24.Qxe6 Rxe6 25.Rad1 Ree8 26.Nd5
					Rad8 27.Be4 f5

>[D]r2q1rk1/p2bbppp/1pn1p3/4P3/2pP1N2/2P5/P1B2PPP/1RBQ1RK1 w - - 0 15
>
>Brutus played Qh5 and went on to win after the double piece
>sacrifice. I had a discussion with Tony Werten, who claimed
>you had to search really really deep to see the compensation.
>I think you just need good kingsafety :)
>
>How long to get Qh5, a winning score and see the double piece sac
>(Nxg6 Bxg6) and KEEP it?

CM9000 needs 2:34 to see it and does keep it for the next PV:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	0.74	1385		15.Qh5 h6 16.Qe2 Na5 17.Be4
0:00	1/4	0.78	4209		15.Qh5 h6 16.d5 Na5 17.Be3 Qc7
0:00	1/4	0.87	7218		15.Qe2 Rc8 16.Qe4 g6 17.Qf3
0:00	1/5	0.79	20729		15.Qe2 b5 16.Qe4 g6 17.Nh5 Qa5
					18.Bd2
0:00	1/5	0.88	28325		15.Qh5 h6 16.Qe2 Rc8 17.Qe4 f5
					18.exf6ep Rxf6
0:01	1/6	1.01	77427		15.Qh5 g6 16.Qh6 Re8 17.Nh5 Bf8
					18.Nf6+ Qxf6 19.exf6 Bxh6 20.Bxh6
0:02	1/6	1.13	121236		15.Nh5 f5 16.exf6ep Bxf6 17.Nxf6+
					Qxf6 18.Qh5 g6 19.Qh6
0:02	1/7	1.10	154354		15.Nh5 f5 16.exf6ep Bxf6 17.Nxf6+
					Qxf6 18.Qh5 h6 19.Qe2
0:06	1/8	1.14	381495		15.Nh5 g6 16.Qe2 Na5 17.Qg4 Kh8
					18.Bh6 Rg8 19.Ng3
0:25	1/9	1.28	1577384		15.Nh5 g6 16.Qf3 f5 17.exf6ep Bxf6
					18.Nxf6+ Qxf6 19.Qe2 Rac8 20.Bh6
0:47	1/10	1.28	3095181		15.Nh5 g6 16.Qf3 f5 17.exf6ep Bxf6
					18.Nxf6+ Qxf6 19.Qe2 Rac8 20.Bh6
1:22	1/10	1.61	5496947		15.Qh5 h6 16.Qf3 g6 17.Nh5 Kh7
					18.Nf6+ Bxf6 19.exf6 Rh8 20.Re1
					Qc7 21.Bf4
2:34	2/11	1.75	10841095	15.Qh5 g6 16.Nxg6 hxg6 17.Bxg6
					fxg6 18.Qxg6+ Kh8 19.Qh5+ Kg8 20.Bh6
					Rf7 21.Qg6+ Kh8 22.Qxf7 Qg8 23.Qf3
					Qg6
5:18	3/12	1.57	24452700	15.Qh5 g6 16.Nxg6 hxg6 17.Bxg6
					fxg6 18.Qxg6+ Kh8 19.Qh5+ Kg8 20.Bh6
					Rf7 21.Qg6+ Kh8 22.Qxf7 Qg8 23.Qh5
					Qh7 24.Rfe1 Rg8

>[D]r4rk1/5p1p/p1pb1n2/1p3bp1/3PR3/1BP2PPq/PP1NQ2P/R1B3K1 b - - 0 18
>
>Junior-Sjeng. Again Adams and Ponomariov in Linares 2002! Black
>must not accept the rook sacrifice. How long to avoid it?

CM9000 never even considers it:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/4	-0.39	16753		18...a5 19.Re3 a4 20.Bd1 Nd5
0:00	1/5	0.00	33126		18...a5 19.a4 Nxe4 20.Nxe4 Bxe4
					21.fxe4
0:01	1/5	-0.08	41075		18...Rad8 19.Qf2 Nxe4 20.Nxe4 h6
					21.Bd2
0:01	1/5	-0.20	80753		18...h6 19.a4 Nxe4 20.Nxe4 Be6
0:02	1/6	-0.15	139533		18...h6 19.Re3 Nd5 20.Bxd5 cxd5
					21.a4 Bd7
0:05	1/7	0.20	355933		18...h6 19.Re3 Nd5 20.Ne4 Nxe3
					21.Bxe3 Rad8
0:10	1/7	0.17	681145		18...Rad8 19.Re3 Nd5 20.Ne4 Nxe3
					21.Bxe3 Bxe4 22.fxe4
0:17	1/7	0.13	1166752		18...Qh6 19.a4 Nxe4 20.Nxe4 Bxe4
					21.Qxe4 Rae8 22.Qxc6 Re2
0:20	1/8	0.13	1324629		18...Qh6 19.a4 Nxe4 20.Nxe4 Be7
					21.h4 Bxe4 22.Qxe4 Qd6
0:33	1/8	0.00	2251424		18...h6 19.Re3 Nd5 20.Bxd5 cxd5
					21.a4 Bd7 22.axb5 axb5
0:48	1/9	0.08	3353542		18...h6 19.Re3 Nd5 20.Ne4 Nxe3
					21.Bxe3 Be7 22.Nf2 Qh5 23.Re1
1:09	1/9	-0.01	4836877		18...c5 19.Qe3 Bxe4 20.Nxe4 Nxe4
					21.fxe4 Be7 22.Bd5 Rac8 23.Qf2
					cxd4 24.cxd4
1:55	1/10	0.22	8517868		18...c5 19.Qe3 Bxe4 20.Nxe4 Nxe4
					21.fxe4 Be7 22.Bd5 Rac8 23.Bd2
					cxd4 24.Qxd4
3:37	1/10	0.08	15650790	18...h6 19.Re3 Nd5 20.Bxd5 cxd5
					21.a4 Bd7 22.b3 Rfe8 23.Ba3 Rxe3
					24.Qxe3

>[D]r4rk1/5p1p/p1pb1n2/1p3bp1/3PR3/1BP2PPq/PP1NQ2P/R1B3K1 b - - 0 18
>
>Sjeng played Qxg7 and Junior answered from book. I think I can
>omit the rest of the story.
>
>How long to avoid Qxg7?

I got this one on the "Fix" post....

>[D]2rq1rk1/pb1pn1pp/1p2p3/2pn1p2/3P2P1/P1PBPN1P/1P1NQP1R/1K1R4 b - - 0 15
>
>GM Alterman - Sjeng Anti-Human
>
>Black plays Nxc3!!
>
>Anyone else find this?

Well, maybe a variation on it. CM9000 wants to play 15...cxd4 first, then after
16.cxd4 THEN Nc3+:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	-0.03	2214		15...d6 16.gxf5 Nxf5 17.Bb5 cxd4
					18.Nxd4 Nxd4 19.exd4
0:00	1/4	-0.04	4865		15...d6 16.gxf5 exf5 17.Bb5 Ng6
0:00	1/5	-0.01	29051		15...d6 16.Bb5 Ng6 17.gxf5 Rxf5
0:00	1/5	-0.04	37069		15...cxd4 16.cxd4 d6 17.gxf5 Nxf5
					18.Ne4
0:01	1/6	-0.14	63444		15...cxd4 16.cxd4 d6 17.gxf5 exf5
					18.Bc4 Qd7
0:03	1/7	-0.11	147452		15...cxd4 16.cxd4 Qc7 17.gxf5 Nxf5
					18.Ka1 Nf6
0:06	1/8	-0.19	365748		15...cxd4 16.cxd4 Qc7 17.Rhh1 d6
					18.Rc1 Qd7 19.Bb5
0:26	1/9	-0.30	1598763		15...cxd4 16.cxd4 Nc3+ 17.bxc3
					Nd5 18.Kb2 Nxc3 19.Qf1 Nxd1+ 20.Qxd1
					Qc7 21.Ka1
0:44	1/10	-0.26	2748814		15...cxd4 16.cxd4 Nc3+ 17.bxc3
					Nd5 18.Rc1 Nxc3+ 19.Rxc3 Rxc3 20.gxf5
					Qc7 21.Rh1 Rxa3 22.Rc1
1:58	2/11	-0.26	7803731		15...cxd4 16.cxd4 Nc3+ 17.bxc3
					Nd5 18.Rc1 Nxc3+ 19.Rxc3 Rxc3 20.Kb2
					Qc7 21.Ne5 Rc1 22.Bc4

jm



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