Author: Marc van Hal
Date: 15:25:09 07/15/02
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On July 15, 2002 at 08:40:48, Mig Greengard wrote: >Sorry, where are the lies? I keep reading and don't see any mention of what part >of what I said is untrue. You seem to be taking what I wrote as an excuse for >Quest not winning, when that has nothing to do with it. My point was that they >can't/won't play a program under the name of Fritz because they have the Bahrain >match coming up and Fritz can't afford to have its reputation damaged. By "best >Fritz" I mean the one that is going to face Kramnik. > >I'm not even sure they are contractually allowed to play "Fritz" in important >events, which would explain why they changed the name to Quest post-facto in the >Dutch event you refer to. Regardless, they would be foolish to do so when the >big money is in Bahrain. Relative to that they had nothing to gain in >Maastricht. To avoid any risk at all they would likely make sure that the Quest >in Maastricht had significant differences from the version Kramnik will play, >hence "not the best Fritz." Who knows, maybe it's stronger. > >Remind me not to hire you for marketing, Gian-Carlo! ChessBase programs/devices >took the first four positions, they hardly need marketing help. And if you >actually read the rest of my article you'd quite clearly see I don't do >marketing for ChessBase... > >Saludos, Mig > > >On July 15, 2002 at 07:36:24, Gerd Isenberg wrote: > >>On July 15, 2002 at 06:06:05, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >> >>>Quote: >>> >>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>Fourth place was Quest, which is an experimental version of Fritz playing >>>incognito. ChessBase can't play their best Fritz because it's being held in a >>>contractual cage awaiting its October match with Kramnik in Bahrain. >>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>Can't play their best Fritz? Lies, lies, and marketing! >>> >>>-- >>>GCP >> >>Marketing of course - they are free to interprete what Quest is, depending on >>the outcome of the tournament. I think, considering the Kramnik event, that is >>quite understandable behaviour of a commercial company. Another example is the >>95 WMCCC in Paderborn. Fritz won the former WCCC in Honkong and therefore Quest >>was playing in Paderborn. >>One time it happended in the opposite direction. After the dutch open 01 where >>the official name was Fritz, they renamed it on their side into Quest, after >>Fritz became third. But that could be an oversight from the editor :-) >> >>Gerd Is the sponsoring of the event not round then? Because if this is round it doesn't mather if it was the best version or not. Aslong if it avoids the openings which Fritz lost in Maastricht. If it even was running on the best available hardware and became 5 in Maastricht but wins the event against Kramnik everybody would be happy here anyways. Not that I believe that that is an easy task for the Fritz team but if he uses his old openings reportoir there might be a chance. Unfortunetly for the chessprogram fans he knows a lot more now then in 1997. A same style as in the World championship would be very dangerous for him if he had to face Schredder. But could be sucsesfull against Fritz. Though I don't believe he will use the openings he used then. Regards Marc van Hal
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