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Subject: Re: "World" Championship in North America ... Semi-Formal Announcement.

Author: Arturo Ochoa

Date: 23:56:10 07/15/02

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>>>13. Additional Rule 2
>>>Each participant should mention the book author(s) in the list of program
>>>authors. The participant is obliged to allow the Tournament Director to inspect
>>>the opening book for its contents and origine. ..."
>>>
>>>The only word that I don't like in these Rules are the word "should" in the Rule
>>>13. Instead of, the Rule must say:
>>>
>>>"Each participant MUST mention the book author(s)..."
>
>Is it really so that no engine used a Carlos Pesce book?
>I think probably the table is incomplete or in error.

I don't know Dann. But, the Openings of the Chess Programs didn't have the sign
of the Pesce's lines.

>
>>>As Jeroen Noomen has pointed out several times in this Forum, it is not
>>>permissible to use any book without the Book Creator Authorization.
>>>
>>>As the Diep Book Tournament Creator, it is not a clean competition to use any
>>>Book for a chess program during a Tournament without revealing who is the
>>>Creator.
>>>
>>>>I don't think that eliminates anything except most of the chess programs.
>>>
>>>This is not true.
>>>
>>>1) Read the Page 4 of the WCCC 2002 Bulletin 5:
>>>
>>>http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/Olympiad2002/bulletin/Bulletin5.doc
>>>
>>>There, you can read a Table with all the Book Creators of the chess programs. I
>>>don't see any program using ANY BOOK. Every Author pointed out the Source of the
>>>Book, including a pgn source for some Books.
>
>For those that name an author, the author is not the same as the program.  I
>suspect that the others have some sort of help or used a special PGN collection
>(perhaps TWIC or something, but there is no mention for most of the programs).
>

I use several sources but mainly books and my own analyses. I don't know what
the rest does this work or what pgn files, but I can suspect what pgn of free
databases. ;)


>>>2)Read the information of Leiden 2002]
>>>
>>>http://www.computerschaak.nl/partic02t.html
>>>
>>>Here again, you can read the complete information of the Opening Book Creators.
>>>When not mentioned, it means the same Chess Program Author created the Book.
>>>
>>>>I doubt if anyone except Vincent wrote his own book.
>>>
>>>No, this is not correct. Alexander Kure writes the Fritz, Brutus and Nimzo
>>>Books. Jeroen Noomen writes the Tiger and Century Books and so on. Carlos Pesce
>>>writes books for several Amateur Engines and so on.....
>
>Yes, that is what I said.  The engine authors generally do NOT write their own
>books.  You seem to have read the opposite of what I have written.
>

Let's do it by this way. It is possible that I have understood the opposite, but
the sentence was too general and the English is not my native language and this
was a nice ideas exchange about his crtitical topic.

BW, Arturo.



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