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Subject: Re: Kasparov's comment on losing to Deep Blue

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 02:52:42 07/16/02

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On July 16, 2002 at 05:28:22, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On July 16, 2002 at 04:55:43, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>Such hip-hop makes no sense. You were talking about a "bruised ego". Are you a
>>psychiatrist? If not, then you might understand what I was talking about. Do you
>>challenge me and think that there is _no_ evidence for what I've written? If
>>yes, then let me give you three hints.
>>
>>1) Unzicker a famous German GM, BTW more famous than all the ex-Soviet GM in the
>>USA together, spoke it out, what I wrote above.
>
>That doesn't make it true.
>
>>2) GM at the Dutch Championship denied to play FRITZ with different variations
>>of boycott.
>
>That didn't have anything to do with Deep Blue. IIRC it was about the decision
>process, ie. involving the players in discussions about allowing Fritz to
>participate in the first place, and the "sanctity" of national championships.
>
>>3) The resolution of FIDE about machines in top event and also team
>>championships.
>
>That's not related to Deep Blue either. Since playing chess isn't a lucrative
>business except for the very best, I suspect that more than a few grandmasters
>found that being replaced by programs wasn't going to improve that. If the
>decision came after the Dutch championships, which I can't remember, then that's
>another factor, ie. not punishing the GMs ratingwise that refuse to play
>computer programs. At the time it looked as if the frequency of program
>participation was going to increase, so it seems logical to make rules. There
>wasn't any rules there in the first place AFAIK. They became conservative due to
>the reasons above I imagine.
>
>>Mathematically we still have no 100% but we have _more_ than "absolutely"
>>nothing. ;)
>
>It's important to keep barely related matters separated. One thing is believing
>or disbelieving the accomplishments of Deep Blue and the impact it had. Another
>is making it responsible for all subsequent decisions involving computer
>programs. You'll need a bit more than this to make your claim credible. But
>barely anything is better than absolutely nothing :-).
>
>Regards,
>Mogens

I just wrote to Guy that psyche is most important in chess.  What I wanted to
elaborate are the interdependencies of such events like DB2 in 97, the Dutch Ch.
and then the FIDE resolutions or non-resolutions if you prefer. Now, it's
impossible to "prove" it but then it was a stimulation for your own thought
processes as a reader. By far I want to be the one who will dominate a certain
singular theory. On the other side I wouldn't accept that I had to keep my mouth
shut until I could "prove" all ideas with mathematical exactitudiness. ;)

Rolf Tueschen



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