Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 07:02:42 07/16/02
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On July 16, 2002 at 09:18:38, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On July 16, 2002 at 04:55:43, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>On July 15, 2002 at 19:32:18, James T. Walker wrote: >> >>>On July 15, 2002 at 12:27:17, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>> >>>>On July 15, 2002 at 12:09:51, James T. Walker wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 15, 2002 at 09:38:23, K. Burcham wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Websters: "to make a person believe what is not true". "to be false". >>>>>>"deliberate misinterpretation of facts". >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>What do you think Kasparov means by "deceive the public". >>>>>> >>>>>>Kasparov On losing to Deep Blue: >>>>>> "The Deep Blue match is the one people remember. >>>>>> It was not just a personal defeat but a disaster for chess. We allowed a >>>>>> computer giant to steal the result and deceive the public". >>>>>> >>>>>>http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=410 >>>>>> >>>>>>kburcham >>>>> >>>>>I think Kasparov was implying that the Deep Blue team cheated. He simply could >>>>>not accept the fact that the computer beat him fair and square. There is no >>>>>medicine that can cure a bruised ego when it is world class in size. >>>>>Jim >>>> >>>>If that would be the case, we wouldn't have to face the situation that GM >>>>players have excluded CC from human tournament chess. They all agree with >>>>Kasparov that it wasn't DEEP BLUE2's strength alone. >>>> >>> >>>Absolute nonsense! "They all agree" ???? They can't all agree on ANYTHING. >>>Also GM players have not excluded computers from human chess tournaments. Where >>>did you get that info? GM players as a group can't agree on the time of day. >>>Jim >> >>Such hip-hop makes no sense. You were talking about a "bruised ego". Are you a >>psychiatrist? If not, then you might understand what I was talking about. Do you >>challenge me and think that there is _no_ evidence for what I've written? If >>yes, then let me give you three hints. >> >>1) Unzicker a famous German GM, BTW more famous than all the ex-Soviet GM in the >>USA together, spoke it out, what I wrote above. >> >>2) GM at the Dutch Championship denied to play FRITZ with different variations >>of boycott. > >Only a couple. Not "all"... Right, I didn't write "all". > > > >> >>3) The resolution of FIDE about machines in top event and also team >>championships. >> > >What about the "resolution" 10 years ago that computers could play if >they coughed up $10,000 to FIDE for membership? Nobody did because it >was too much money. So FIDE rescinded the option, probably hoping that >one day they would get asked again to open that back up and make some >money. It's always a problem to compare times, different centuries and the people involved in each case. It becomes quickly a multi-factor design. > > > > > >>Mathematically we still have no 100% but we have _more_ than "absolutely" >>nothing. ;) > > >Actually you have "very few". I don't even think "most GMs" have given the >question any thought since it isn't an issue in FIDE events. > You'd find silent majorities wherever you look. I don't understand why you still think that relations between chessplayers and CC aren't a bit legless these days. Rolf Tueschen > > >> >>Rolf Tueschen
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