Author: Marc van Hal
Date: 10:28:46 07/16/02
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On July 15, 2002 at 11:29:57, Omid David wrote: >On July 15, 2002 at 09:40:30, Aaron Tay wrote: > >>On July 15, 2002 at 08:10:10, Omid David wrote: >> >>>It's not an 'open question'! as Smirin recently proved, humans are still far >>>superior than computers. Kasparov's loss was a terrible bad luck (+ dirty tricks >>>on IBM's behalf). >>> >>>I strongly believe that all chess programs are dump, not being able to see some >>>of the obvious positional elements in a position. If a chess program like Junior >>>or Fritz loses 5 games in 100 to me (2250 Elo), it means that computers are by >>>no means superior to humans. (I certainly won't be able to beat a 2700 Elo Human >>>5 times in 100 matches!) >>> >>>P.S. >>>I'm saying this despite my being a chess programmer. >> >>You might change your mind when you become a COMMERCIAL chess programmer with a >>product to sell and then suddenly your "baby" is World class player capable of >>going toe to toe with kasparov and deep blue is a toy.. :) > >When I become a commercial chess programmer, I hope no one remembers my current >comments ;-) But that won't mean they aren't true! This is kind of strange first you have it all the time over programs and Kasparov and never made the statement that Kasparov had help of a chessprogram for some of his analyses from early days on! Secondly the recognition of the F.I.D.E is something you can forget. How many people outside this forum realy know me and my work? (Nobody ever made as deep going analyses from chess positions as I did In which many problem where revealed!) Though they use it on constant bases. Above all I know how dificult it is to get recognition from the chessworld. But the F.I.D.E would be one of my last wory's But it is not treu that there always will be a program who knows how to find the important positional move and there is even less chance it will find the full contineuation of that plan! Regards Marc van Hal
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