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Subject: Re: "World" Championship in North America ... Semi-Formal Announcement.

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 15:37:26 07/16/02

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On July 16, 2002 at 18:27:41, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 16, 2002 at 17:56:28, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On July 16, 2002 at 16:55:21, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On July 16, 2002 at 16:09:27, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 15:37:52, Peter Berger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 14:24:24, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Require logs, a copy of the official tournament binary, a copy of the official
>>>>>>tournament book, and mail the logs immediately after completion of every game.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think the latter combined with online kibitzing would be enough. We aren't
>>>>>talking about al-Qaeda here. It would certainly be a higher standard as in
>>>>>today's live tournaments IMHO.
>>>>
>>>>I am actually a bit nervous about the online kibitzing.
>>>>
>>>>Is it possible to use a modified version of Winboard to feed back the opponent's
>>>>plan in order to ponder correctly 100% of the time?
>>>>
>>>>It would also be possible to see what the expected response to the pv move is,
>>>>which is a second advantage.
>>>
>>>
>>>Then we do "whisper" instead so that the players don't see but the spectators
>>>and TD do...  I can also think of other counter-measures such as kibitzing bad
>>>info as well as good info to confuse the opponent if it is trying to parse that
>>>for bad purposes.
>>
>>But if the whisper is not what the program does, then I think that would raise
>>suspicion.
>
>
>I could think of solutions.  IE I will tell folks after the round starts
>"if you see a whisper with this unique string in it, then do not believe it,
>it is a 'counter-measure' in case the other program is listening."
>
>Or, as I said, just use whisper which the opponent can't see directly.  Of
>course a "guest" could log on and observe the game, and see the whispers
>which could be electronically relayed to the program, but that is getting
>pretty complex and the server admins could see this going on...   IE we
>could make it illegal for _any_ "tells" to be directed toward an active
>player...

I suppose we could also play with the format of the whisper.

Instead of saying:
ce 127 pv Ke3 Bh4 ...
Spout:
"I'm about one and a quarter pawns ahead, and I think I'll probably move my king
to e3.  I expect he'll follow up with bishop to h4, and then I'll answer that
with..."



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