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Subject: Re: World Computer Chess Championship in North America.. revised

Author: José Carlos

Date: 16:05:35 07/16/02

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On July 16, 2002 at 18:56:20, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On July 16, 2002 at 18:44:08, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:35:44, Kevin Strickland wrote:
>>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:33:25, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>Another reason not to have big prize funds:
>>>>It would encourage cheating.  There are enough problems with claims of cheating
>>>>already.
>>>>
>>>>On the other hand, I think that sponsors could be very useful if they could fly
>>>>people to the event who could not normally afford it.
>>>>
>>>>Imagine if chess engines from Uruguay and Africa could be present.  Wouldn't it
>>>>be nice if New Zealand and Australia and Viet Nam could be represented?
>>>>
>>>>I pretty much guarantee that you will get as many participants as free trips
>>>>that you can arrange.  So if you can cough up 100 plane fares, you will have 100
>>>>entrants for sure.
>>>
>>>I am absolutely sure I can arrange a _few_ plane tickets. But 100 seems like an
>>>aweful lot of begging.
>>
>>Don't try to spent money which isn't there yet. If you manage to organize
>>a big event, sure the europeans will come. I will at least.
>>
>>Here is the problem: i won't come if nothing is at stake. I don't mean
>>a few beers then or a prize. I don't come for a price. But an ACM
>>title. If i play there i expect to see Bob in person for example,
>>and Bruce, i don't travel over the ocean to face a few operators or
>>remote playing programs. In fact i've never seen Bob in living person!
>>
>>Whatever you say, the european programs right now dominate the world champs.
>>
>>This world champs number 1 to 5 were european. 3 of them even actually
>>living within 200KM from maastricht (quest, diep, shredder from
>>which shredder is living closest to maastricht). Junior
>>team travelled all from Israel and is doing that each year. Chance for
>>a world champ tournament in israel is real small, though i would go there.
>>
>>2003 is graz, perhaps you can organize 2004 a world champs in USA?
>>
>>All you need is a sponsor and a location to keep it. The ICGA will take
>>care of the rest (including robbing the local bank).
>>
>>then all europeans for sure will go to USA. No need for plane tickets.
>>I happily pay for one to play in USA.
>>
>>i bet Peter McKenzie will be real happy if a tournament gets held in USA
>>too, Instead of 24 hours he only needs to travel like 9 hours by plane
>>then ;)
>
>I think probably a lot of the programmers just could not afford it (especially
>the kids -- some are only 17 years old or so).
>
>It would be nice to subsidize those that need it.  Even better if everyone could
>get free transportation.  Probably the professionals don't need free
>transportation, because they will earn money with the exposure.  If it took off
>with a hundred entrants (all of which they would mow through with ease anyway
>making them look even better) the stir would really be big, I think.

  I'd probably go if, as Vincent said, the programmers were for sure to be
there. If I had to choose between that and a free ticket, I'd choose meeting the
programmers. But I'm not sure I'll be able to pay a plain ticket to the USA in
the next few years because, ahem... I could possibly get married soon :(

  José C.



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