Author: Andrew Williams
Date: 01:52:52 07/17/02
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On July 16, 2002 at 21:26:15, Peter Kappler wrote: >On July 16, 2002 at 19:38:38, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On July 16, 2002 at 19:36:23, Bruce Moreland wrote: >> >>>On July 16, 2002 at 19:35:46, Dann Corbit wrote: >>> >>>>On July 16, 2002 at 19:30:17, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 19:28:08, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 19:22:18, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>>>>[snip] >>>>>>>A very strong message is sent by simply having a successful event. The ICCA is >>>>>>>of the opinion that computer chess is dead outside of Europe. >>>>>> >>>>>>Why not get the ICCA involved? Why can't they officially sanction it? >>>>> >>>>>They won't allow it to be a WCCC, because they already have that set up for next >>>>>year, presumably because Donninger asked for the 2003 event last year, and the >>>>>ICCA said yes, without exploring the possibility of doing an event in North >>>>>America, because computer chess outside of Europe is dead. >>>> >>>>It does not have to be a WCCC. In FIDE or USCF not every event is a >>>>championship, and yet we have huge events. Consider Hoogovens, Wijk An Zee, >>>>Linares, etc. Big, earth-shaking events but not necessarily having any >>>>connection to a world championship. >>> >>>That being the case, why not? This is another reason NOT to call it a WCCC. >> >>I don't see an ICGA sactioning and a WCCC as being the same thing. The ICGA >>could give official sanction to an event which is not a WCCC. That was the >>point I was trying to make. >> >>I think it will be more interesting to the best professional programs if it is >>an "official" event, rather than: >>"The world championship of somebody's basement in Edmonton." > > >Bob Hyatt posted last week that ICCA charges a $35,000 fee to have their name >associated with an event. > >I don't know if they actually do anything in return for this money. They sure >as hell don't use it to promote the event, or to subsidize travel fees, or to >support any type of live internet coverage. > They have never made any secret of the fact that they use this money to subsidize the production of the ICCA (now ICGA) Journal. The Journal publishes an annual accounts statement which makes this clear. Andrew >I'd be happy to see ICCA attach their name to the event and even provide some >input into the rules and organization, but not if they want $35,000. That's >enough money to pay airfare for a few dozen programmers. > >-Peter
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