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Subject: Re: North American Open 2003.

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 03:27:20 07/17/02

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On July 17, 2002 at 05:56:52, Nicolas GUIBERT wrote:

>
>>After reading the posts of others, I think that one thing should be made clear.
>>I think you should decide what kind of tournament this is going to be, then
>>develop the rest of it around it. For example, if it was going to be a "world
>>championship", then (IMO) the goal is to determine the best engine in the world.
>>If that is your goal, I would expect longer time controls...
>
>NO NO NO
>
>If you want to try and determine the best engine, do not play at longer time
>controls !!!!!!
>
>BUT... Do play a lot more games with shorter time controls.
>
>Then you will get a more reliable result !
>
>I have never understood why computer chess competitions are so slow. For human
>players, this is understandable. For computers, it is just nonsense. I believe
>that this has to do with history. The first competitions had to be played slowly
>because the computers were terribly bad at Chess (low depths)... But that was 20
>years ago ! Computer science evolved quite a bit since then.
>
>Do you like playing random tournaments or do you really want to get an accurate
>picture of the computer chess landscape ?

Absolutely.  The biggest problem (as I see it) is the quality of the games with
the longer time controls.  After all, we won't see any brilliancies like these
at G/90 or slower on fast hardware:

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DANNFAST"]
[Date "2001.07.28"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Beowulf-16b"]
[Black "ExChess-311"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B12a"]
[Variation "Caro-Kann: 2.d4"]
[TimeControl "15"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 f6 3. f4 h6 4. Qh5+ g6 5. Qxg6# 1-0

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DANNFAST"]
[Date "2001.06.27"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Amy"]
[Black "Tao44"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C48n"]
[Variation "Four Knights: Rubinstein, 5.Ba4"]
[TimeControl "60"]

1. e4 Nc6 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nc3 e5 4. Bb5 Nd4 5. Ba4 Bd6 6. O-O c6 7. Nxd4 exd4
8. Ne2 Qa5 9. Bb3 Qh5 10. Nxd4 Qxh2# 0-1

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DANNFAST"]
[Date "2001.07.26"]
[Round "1"]
[White "AnMon-510"]
[Black "Holmes-040"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C44r"]
[Variation "Scotch: Lolli Variation"]
[TimeControl "15"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 Nxd4 4. Nxe5 c5 5. Bc4 Ne6 6. O-O Ng5 7. Bxg5 a6
8. Bxf7# 1-0

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DANNFAST"]
[Date "2001.07.27"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Bringer-18"]
[Black "Amy-07"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A00k"]
[Variation "Van Kruijs"]
[TimeControl "15"]

1. e3 Nc6 2. Bb5 Nf6 3. Ne2 e5 4. f4 Bd6 5. fxe5 Bxe5 6. d4 Bxh2 7. Rxh2
O-O 8. Nf4 Ne4 9. Nc3 Nxc3 10. Qh5 Nxb5 11. Qxh7# 1-0

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DANNFAST"]
[Date "2001.08.01"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Grizzly-125"]
[Black "Amyan-111"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E20"]
[Variation "Nimzo-Indian Defence"]
[TimeControl "15"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e4 Nxe4 5. d5 Qf6 6. dxe6 Qxf2# 0-1

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DANNFAST"]
[Date "2001.08.01"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Grizzly-125"]
[Black "GNU Chess v5.02"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A43"]
[Variation "Old Benoni: 2.dxc5"]
[TimeControl "15"]

1. d4 c5 2. dxc5 e6 3. Qxd7+ Bxd7 4. e4 Bxc5 5. e5 Qh4 6. Be3 Bxe3 7. Bd3
Qxf2+ 8. Kd1 Qxg2 9. Bxh7 Qf1# 0-1

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DANNFAST"]
[Date "2001.07.30"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Knightx-154"]
[Black "ExChess-311"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B12a"]
[Variation "Caro-Kann: 2.d4"]
[TimeControl "15"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 f6 3. Bd3 Na6 4. Nf3 Nb4 5. O-O Nh6 6. Bxh6 gxh6 7. Ng5 hxg5
8. Qh5# 1-0

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DANNFAST"]
[Date "2001.08.01"]
[Round "2"]
[White "LordKing-29D"]
[Black "GNU Chess v5.02"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B00"]
[Opening "Carr's defence"]
[Variation "Ilyin-Genevsky variation (with b3)"]
[TimeControl "15"]

1. e4 h6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 e6 4. Nge2 Nc6 5. Bf4 Bb4 6. Rc1 Nxe4 7. Rg1 Qh4
8. Bxc7 Qxf2# 0-1

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DANNFAST"]
[Date "2001.08.01"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Storm-006"]
[Black "Grizzly-125"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D00m"]
[Variation "Queen's Pawn: Veresov Attack"]
[TimeControl "15"]

1. Nc3 d5 2. d4 e5 3. dxe5 d4 4. Nb5 Qd5 5. Nxc7+ Ke7 6. Nxd5+ Ke6 7. Nc7+
Kxe5 8. Nf3+ Ke4 9. Qd3# 1-0

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DANNFAST"]
[Date "2001.08.01"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Gromit3"]
[Black "Mint v2.3"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C43j"]
[Variation "Russian Game: Modern Attack, 3...Nxe4 4.Bd3 d5 5.Nxe5"]
[TimeControl "15"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. Bd3 d5 5. Nxe5 Qh4 6. Ke2 Qxf2# 0-1

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DANNFAST"]
[Date "2001.08.03"]
[Round "1"]
[White "LordKing-29"]
[Black "Green Light Chess v2.13"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C03"]
[Variation "French: Tarrasch, 3...b6"]
[TimeControl "15"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 b6 4. Ngf3 Nf6 5. exd5 exd5 6. Bd3 Be7 7. O-O O-O
8. Re1 Bb7 9. Qe2 Re8 10. Ne5 Nc6 11. Ndf3 Nb4 12. Nxf7 Kxf7 13. Qe6+ Kf8
14. Ng5 Ng4 15. Nxh7# 1-0

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "MWMCKEE"]
[Date "2001.07.21"]
[Round "1"]
[White "ZChess-120"]
[Black "Ghost-13"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B02h"]
[Variation "Alekhine: Scandinavian, Exchange, 4.Bc4"]
[TimeControl "60"]

1. e4 Nf6 2. Nc3 d5 3. exd5 Nxd5 4. Bc4 Nxc3 5. Qf3 Nxa2 6. Bxf7+ Kd7 7.
Qd5# 1-0


The true beauteous wonder that is "lightning chess" makes me pine for the days
when all games will be run at G/1 minute or faster.



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