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Subject: Re: North American Open 2003.

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 11:13:57 07/17/02

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On July 17, 2002 at 13:45:52, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>Here is a rating list of very quick paced games.  You can find the actual games
>here:
>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/The%20Gauntlet/calibration/quick/
>No set of contests with less than 20 games was included, to reduce the noise.
>
>If you think that the randomness evens out, think again.  This is clearly wrong,
>as a glance will tell you:
>
>
>    Program                  Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
>
>  1 Delfi 1.01             : 2799   88 502    20    95.0 %   2287    0.0 %
>  2 LGoliath               : 2757   71 332    22    95.5 %   2228    9.1 %
>  3 Comet B.37             : 2724  113 370    20    92.5 %   2287    5.0 %
>  4 Sjeng73                : 2672   38 187   122    89.8 %   2295    2.5 %
>  5 MAD                    : 2664  111 391    21    90.5 %   2273    0.0 %
>  6 Arasanx-54             : 2649   25 129   287    88.5 %   2294    1.4 %
>  7 AnMon                  : 2649   40 121   129    83.3 %   2369    8.5 %
>  8 Gully2                 : 2629  107 391    22    90.9 %   2229    0.0 %
>  9 Crafty-18.2            : 2625  111 300    21    90.5 %   2234    9.5 %
> 10 Quark v1.46alpha       : 2624   39 172   123    87.8 %   2281    1.6 %
> 11 Morphy                 : 2623  102 320    24    89.6 %   2249    4.2 %
> 12 Faile                  : 2598  101 273    25    88.0 %   2252    8.0 %
> 13 Comet B.36             : 2594   28 114   247    84.6 %   2298    0.8 %
> 14 Ghost                  : 2577  102 282    25    86.0 %   2262    4.0 %

>The speed of the game is directly proportional to the garbage introduced.
>The games I posted were but a tiny sampling of the nonesense that is erupted
>when you shrink the clock.
>
>IMO-YMMV

Sorry I can't reach your site, it seems to be down, but I guess these are not
G/5 games, or Delfi is one bad ass blitzer :)

However I agree, I think you will see noise if you way below G/5 because some
clear hashtables or other stuff that takes a sec or two at every move.

But remember time is _not_ the factor to care about, G/120 on a pentium 200 MHz
is actually about G/10 on a new fast Athlon.

So I think it depends on what you are interested in, if you want high quality
games, then you should do slow games, if you want good statistic, fast games
will give you more bang for the buck (CPU time equals money you know:).

I would love to see a G/5 rating list compared to a G/120 list, I think most
good engines does about equally well in all time controls.

-S.



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