Author: Uri Blass
Date: 12:09:22 07/17/02
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On July 17, 2002 at 13:38:34, Dann Corbit wrote: >On July 17, 2002 at 08:55:15, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On July 17, 2002 at 06:27:20, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On July 17, 2002 at 05:56:52, Nicolas GUIBERT wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>>After reading the posts of others, I think that one thing should be made clear. >>>>>I think you should decide what kind of tournament this is going to be, then >>>>>develop the rest of it around it. For example, if it was going to be a "world >>>>>championship", then (IMO) the goal is to determine the best engine in the world. >>>>>If that is your goal, I would expect longer time controls... >>>> >>>>NO NO NO >>>> >>>>If you want to try and determine the best engine, do not play at longer time >>>>controls !!!!!! >>>> >>>>BUT... Do play a lot more games with shorter time controls. >>>> >>>>Then you will get a more reliable result ! >>>> >>>>I have never understood why computer chess competitions are so slow. For human >>>>players, this is understandable. For computers, it is just nonsense. I believe >>>>that this has to do with history. The first competitions had to be played slowly >>>>because the computers were terribly bad at Chess (low depths)... But that was 20 >>>>years ago ! Computer science evolved quite a bit since then. >>>> >>>>Do you like playing random tournaments or do you really want to get an accurate >>>>picture of the computer chess landscape ? >>> >>>Absolutely. The biggest problem (as I see it) is the quality of the games with >>>the longer time controls. After all, we won't see any brilliancies like these >>>at G/90 or slower on fast hardware: >>> >>>[Event "Computer chess game"] >>>[Site "DANNFAST"] >>>[Date "2001.07.28"] >>>[Round "2"] >>>[White "Beowulf-16b"] >>>[Black "ExChess-311"] >>>[Result "1-0"] >>>[ECO "B12a"] >>>[Variation "Caro-Kann: 2.d4"] >>>[TimeControl "15"] >>> >>>1. e4 c6 2. d4 f6 3. f4 h6 4. Qh5+ g6 5. Qxg6# 1-0 >> >>Does exchess play 2...f6 after 1.e4 c6 2.d4? >> >>It seems strange to me. >>If that game happened then it seems that Exchess-311 have a big bug because >>chess programs without bugs cannot play so weak >> >>2...f6 and 3...h6 are not going to be played even at 0.1 second per move unless >>the program has a serious bug. > >Try playing a big raft of games at game in 15 seconds. Did you notice the time >control? >;-) The time control is not important. A program cannot play 2...f6 after 1.e4 c6 2.d4 if it has a normal book. Search also cannot get this move even at depth 1 and programs always have enough time to complete depth 1 when they have 15 seconds for all the game. Uri
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