Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 12:15:47 07/17/02
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On July 17, 2002 at 15:09:22, Uri Blass wrote: >On July 17, 2002 at 13:38:34, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On July 17, 2002 at 08:55:15, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On July 17, 2002 at 06:27:20, Dann Corbit wrote: >>> >>>>On July 17, 2002 at 05:56:52, Nicolas GUIBERT wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>After reading the posts of others, I think that one thing should be made clear. >>>>>>I think you should decide what kind of tournament this is going to be, then >>>>>>develop the rest of it around it. For example, if it was going to be a "world >>>>>>championship", then (IMO) the goal is to determine the best engine in the world. >>>>>>If that is your goal, I would expect longer time controls... >>>>> >>>>>NO NO NO >>>>> >>>>>If you want to try and determine the best engine, do not play at longer time >>>>>controls !!!!!! >>>>> >>>>>BUT... Do play a lot more games with shorter time controls. >>>>> >>>>>Then you will get a more reliable result ! >>>>> >>>>>I have never understood why computer chess competitions are so slow. For human >>>>>players, this is understandable. For computers, it is just nonsense. I believe >>>>>that this has to do with history. The first competitions had to be played slowly >>>>>because the computers were terribly bad at Chess (low depths)... But that was 20 >>>>>years ago ! Computer science evolved quite a bit since then. >>>>> >>>>>Do you like playing random tournaments or do you really want to get an accurate >>>>>picture of the computer chess landscape ? >>>> >>>>Absolutely. The biggest problem (as I see it) is the quality of the games with >>>>the longer time controls. After all, we won't see any brilliancies like these >>>>at G/90 or slower on fast hardware: >>>> >>>>[Event "Computer chess game"] >>>>[Site "DANNFAST"] >>>>[Date "2001.07.28"] >>>>[Round "2"] >>>>[White "Beowulf-16b"] >>>>[Black "ExChess-311"] >>>>[Result "1-0"] >>>>[ECO "B12a"] >>>>[Variation "Caro-Kann: 2.d4"] >>>>[TimeControl "15"] >>>> >>>>1. e4 c6 2. d4 f6 3. f4 h6 4. Qh5+ g6 5. Qxg6# 1-0 >>> >>>Does exchess play 2...f6 after 1.e4 c6 2.d4? >>> >>>It seems strange to me. >>>If that game happened then it seems that Exchess-311 have a big bug because >>>chess programs without bugs cannot play so weak >>> >>>2...f6 and 3...h6 are not going to be played even at 0.1 second per move unless >>>the program has a serious bug. >> >>Try playing a big raft of games at game in 15 seconds. Did you notice the time >>control? >>;-) > >The time control is not important. > >A program cannot play 2...f6 after 1.e4 c6 2.d4 if it has a normal book. >Search also cannot get this move even at depth 1 and programs always have enough >time to complete depth 1 when they have 15 seconds for all the game. Those two programs played that sequence of moves exactly as listed. Maybe it cannot play them. But it did.
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