Author: Scott Gasch
Date: 13:43:32 07/17/02
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On July 17, 2002 at 04:52:52, Andrew Williams wrote: >On July 16, 2002 at 21:26:15, Peter Kappler wrote: > >>On July 16, 2002 at 19:38:38, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On July 16, 2002 at 19:36:23, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>> >>>>On July 16, 2002 at 19:35:46, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 19:30:17, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 19:28:08, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 19:22:18, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>>>>>[snip] >>>>>>>>A very strong message is sent by simply having a successful event. The ICCA is >>>>>>>>of the opinion that computer chess is dead outside of Europe. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Why not get the ICCA involved? Why can't they officially sanction it? >>>>>> >>>>>>They won't allow it to be a WCCC, because they already have that set up for next >>>>>>year, presumably because Donninger asked for the 2003 event last year, and the >>>>>>ICCA said yes, without exploring the possibility of doing an event in North >>>>>>America, because computer chess outside of Europe is dead. >>>>> >>>>>It does not have to be a WCCC. In FIDE or USCF not every event is a >>>>>championship, and yet we have huge events. Consider Hoogovens, Wijk An Zee, >>>>>Linares, etc. Big, earth-shaking events but not necessarily having any >>>>>connection to a world championship. >>>> >>>>That being the case, why not? This is another reason NOT to call it a WCCC. >>> >>>I don't see an ICGA sactioning and a WCCC as being the same thing. The ICGA >>>could give official sanction to an event which is not a WCCC. That was the >>>point I was trying to make. >>> >>>I think it will be more interesting to the best professional programs if it is >>>an "official" event, rather than: >>>"The world championship of somebody's basement in Edmonton." >> >> >>Bob Hyatt posted last week that ICCA charges a $35,000 fee to have their name >>associated with an event. >> >>I don't know if they actually do anything in return for this money. They sure >>as hell don't use it to promote the event, or to subsidize travel fees, or to >>support any type of live internet coverage. >> > >They have never made any secret of the fact that they use this money to >subsidize the production of the ICCA (now ICGA) Journal. The Journal publishes >an annual accounts statement which makes this clear. > >Andrew > This is a serious question, not a troll: Is this the same ICCA Journal that costs $40 for a yearly subscription? And comes out 4 times per year? Or is there some other publication these tournament fees are subsidizing? If we are talking about the ICCA Journal I know of then $10 an issue certainly should be adequate to cover costs. I don't blame people for making a living but to say these huge tournament association fees cover publication costs of a journal that is also grossly overpriced is naive -- if we're talking about the same journal here. Scott
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