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Subject: Re: World Computer Chess Championship in North America.. revised

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 02:39:09 07/18/02

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On July 16, 2002 at 19:05:35, José Carlos wrote:

>On July 16, 2002 at 18:56:20, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:44:08, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:35:44, Kevin Strickland wrote:
>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:33:25, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>>Another reason not to have big prize funds:
>>>>>It would encourage cheating.  There are enough problems with claims of cheating
>>>>>already.
>>>>>
>>>>>On the other hand, I think that sponsors could be very useful if they could fly
>>>>>people to the event who could not normally afford it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Imagine if chess engines from Uruguay and Africa could be present.  Wouldn't it
>>>>>be nice if New Zealand and Australia and Viet Nam could be represented?
>>>>>
>>>>>I pretty much guarantee that you will get as many participants as free trips
>>>>>that you can arrange.  So if you can cough up 100 plane fares, you will have 100
>>>>>entrants for sure.
>>>>
>>>>I am absolutely sure I can arrange a _few_ plane tickets. But 100 seems like an
>>>>aweful lot of begging.
>>>
>>>Don't try to spent money which isn't there yet. If you manage to organize
>>>a big event, sure the europeans will come. I will at least.
>>>
>>>Here is the problem: i won't come if nothing is at stake. I don't mean
>>>a few beers then or a prize. I don't come for a price. But an ACM
>>>title. If i play there i expect to see Bob in person for example,
>>>and Bruce, i don't travel over the ocean to face a few operators or
>>>remote playing programs. In fact i've never seen Bob in living person!
>>>
>>>Whatever you say, the european programs right now dominate the world champs.
>>>
>>>This world champs number 1 to 5 were european. 3 of them even actually
>>>living within 200KM from maastricht (quest, diep, shredder from
>>>which shredder is living closest to maastricht). Junior
>>>team travelled all from Israel and is doing that each year. Chance for
>>>a world champ tournament in israel is real small, though i would go there.
>>>
>>>2003 is graz, perhaps you can organize 2004 a world champs in USA?
>>>
>>>All you need is a sponsor and a location to keep it. The ICGA will take
>>>care of the rest (including robbing the local bank).
>>>
>>>then all europeans for sure will go to USA. No need for plane tickets.
>>>I happily pay for one to play in USA.
>>>
>>>i bet Peter McKenzie will be real happy if a tournament gets held in USA
>>>too, Instead of 24 hours he only needs to travel like 9 hours by plane
>>>then ;)
>>
>>I think probably a lot of the programmers just could not afford it (especially
>>the kids -- some are only 17 years old or so).
>>
>>It would be nice to subsidize those that need it.  Even better if everyone could
>>get free transportation.  Probably the professionals don't need free
>>transportation, because they will earn money with the exposure.  If it took off
>>with a hundred entrants (all of which they would mow through with ease anyway
>>making them look even better) the stir would really be big, I think.
>
>  I'd probably go if, as Vincent said, the programmers were for sure to be
>there. If I had to choose between that and a free ticket, I'd choose meeting the
>programmers. But I'm not sure I'll be able to pay a plain ticket to the USA in
>the next few years because, ahem... I could possibly get married soon :(
>
>  José C.

Better invest that money into your marriage, because the daydream from Peter
Skinner won't happen soon :)



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