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Subject: Re: World Computer Chess Championship in North America.. revised

Author: Omid David

Date: 03:32:22 07/18/02

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On July 18, 2002 at 05:35:21, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On July 17, 2002 at 06:21:34, Omid David wrote:
>
>this is great news. note the word 'micro' is dropped, so
>we can all join an open hardware contest in israel in 2004,
>this is great news!!
>
>Now try to get it a bit cheaper from David, because they
>don't have a sponsor yet for 2004, which brings you in
>a powerful position! :)

Oh, Thanks! we'll do our best!


>
>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:44:08, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:35:44, Kevin Strickland wrote:
>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:33:25, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>>Another reason not to have big prize funds:
>>>>>It would encourage cheating.  There are enough problems with claims of cheating
>>>>>already.
>>>>>
>>>>>On the other hand, I think that sponsors could be very useful if they could fly
>>>>>people to the event who could not normally afford it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Imagine if chess engines from Uruguay and Africa could be present.  Wouldn't it
>>>>>be nice if New Zealand and Australia and Viet Nam could be represented?
>>>>>
>>>>>I pretty much guarantee that you will get as many participants as free trips
>>>>>that you can arrange.  So if you can cough up 100 plane fares, you will have 100
>>>>>entrants for sure.
>>>>
>>>>I am absolutely sure I can arrange a _few_ plane tickets. But 100 seems like an
>>>>aweful lot of begging.
>>>
>>>Don't try to spent money which isn't there yet. If you manage to organize
>>>a big event, sure the europeans will come. I will at least.
>>>
>>>Here is the problem: i won't come if nothing is at stake. I don't mean
>>>a few beers then or a prize. I don't come for a price. But an ACM
>>>title. If i play there i expect to see Bob in person for example,
>>>and Bruce, i don't travel over the ocean to face a few operators or
>>>remote playing programs. In fact i've never seen Bob in living person!
>>>
>>>Whatever you say, the european programs right now dominate the world champs.
>>>
>>>This world champs number 1 to 5 were european. 3 of them even actually
>>>living within 200KM from maastricht (quest, diep, shredder from
>>>which shredder is living closest to maastricht). Junior
>>>team travelled all from Israel and is doing that each year. Chance for
>>>a world champ tournament in israel is real small, though i would go there.
>>
>>Here in Bar-Ilan University (Israel) we're trying to organize a WMCCC possibly
>>in 2004.
>>
>>Omid.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>2003 is graz, perhaps you can organize 2004 a world champs in USA?
>>>
>>>All you need is a sponsor and a location to keep it. The ICGA will take
>>>care of the rest (including robbing the local bank).
>>>
>>>then all europeans for sure will go to USA. No need for plane tickets.
>>>I happily pay for one to play in USA.
>>>
>>>i bet Peter McKenzie will be real happy if a tournament gets held in USA
>>>too, Instead of 24 hours he only needs to travel like 9 hours by plane
>>>then ;)
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>Vincent



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