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Subject: Re: World Computer Chess Championship in North America.. revised

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 06:58:03 07/18/02

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On July 18, 2002 at 06:32:22, Omid David wrote:

You can get it cheaper of course if you don't host the
rest of the olympiad. However icca will have a major problem
because 2003 isn't going to host olympiads either. Also
majority of participants at olympiads are complete beginners
who should start buying a few computerchess books and magazines.

majority i had to explain to what alfabeta search is :)

So you don't need them!

>On July 18, 2002 at 05:35:21, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On July 17, 2002 at 06:21:34, Omid David wrote:
>>
>>this is great news. note the word 'micro' is dropped, so
>>we can all join an open hardware contest in israel in 2004,
>>this is great news!!
>>
>>Now try to get it a bit cheaper from David, because they
>>don't have a sponsor yet for 2004, which brings you in
>>a powerful position! :)
>
>Oh, Thanks! we'll do our best!
>
>
>>
>>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:44:08, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:35:44, Kevin Strickland wrote:
>>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:33:25, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>>>Another reason not to have big prize funds:
>>>>>>It would encourage cheating.  There are enough problems with claims of cheating
>>>>>>already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On the other hand, I think that sponsors could be very useful if they could fly
>>>>>>people to the event who could not normally afford it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Imagine if chess engines from Uruguay and Africa could be present.  Wouldn't it
>>>>>>be nice if New Zealand and Australia and Viet Nam could be represented?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I pretty much guarantee that you will get as many participants as free trips
>>>>>>that you can arrange.  So if you can cough up 100 plane fares, you will have 100
>>>>>>entrants for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am absolutely sure I can arrange a _few_ plane tickets. But 100 seems like an
>>>>>aweful lot of begging.
>>>>
>>>>Don't try to spent money which isn't there yet. If you manage to organize
>>>>a big event, sure the europeans will come. I will at least.
>>>>
>>>>Here is the problem: i won't come if nothing is at stake. I don't mean
>>>>a few beers then or a prize. I don't come for a price. But an ACM
>>>>title. If i play there i expect to see Bob in person for example,
>>>>and Bruce, i don't travel over the ocean to face a few operators or
>>>>remote playing programs. In fact i've never seen Bob in living person!
>>>>
>>>>Whatever you say, the european programs right now dominate the world champs.
>>>>
>>>>This world champs number 1 to 5 were european. 3 of them even actually
>>>>living within 200KM from maastricht (quest, diep, shredder from
>>>>which shredder is living closest to maastricht). Junior
>>>>team travelled all from Israel and is doing that each year. Chance for
>>>>a world champ tournament in israel is real small, though i would go there.
>>>
>>>Here in Bar-Ilan University (Israel) we're trying to organize a WMCCC possibly
>>>in 2004.
>>>
>>>Omid.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>2003 is graz, perhaps you can organize 2004 a world champs in USA?
>>>>
>>>>All you need is a sponsor and a location to keep it. The ICGA will take
>>>>care of the rest (including robbing the local bank).
>>>>
>>>>then all europeans for sure will go to USA. No need for plane tickets.
>>>>I happily pay for one to play in USA.
>>>>
>>>>i bet Peter McKenzie will be real happy if a tournament gets held in USA
>>>>too, Instead of 24 hours he only needs to travel like 9 hours by plane
>>>>then ;)
>>>>
>>>>Best regards,
>>>>Vincent



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