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Subject: Re: World Computer Chess Championship in North America.. revised

Author: Omid David

Date: 07:26:49 07/18/02

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On July 18, 2002 at 09:58:03, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On July 18, 2002 at 06:32:22, Omid David wrote:
>
>You can get it cheaper of course if you don't host the
>rest of the olympiad. However icca will have a major problem
>because 2003 isn't going to host olympiads either. Also
>majority of participants at olympiads are complete beginners
>who should start buying a few computerchess books and magazines.
>
>majority i had to explain to what alfabeta search is :)
>
>So you don't need them!
>

Did they decide to hold the olympiad annually too?! I thought they just changed
WMCCC to open hardware.



>>On July 18, 2002 at 05:35:21, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On July 17, 2002 at 06:21:34, Omid David wrote:
>>>
>>>this is great news. note the word 'micro' is dropped, so
>>>we can all join an open hardware contest in israel in 2004,
>>>this is great news!!
>>>
>>>Now try to get it a bit cheaper from David, because they
>>>don't have a sponsor yet for 2004, which brings you in
>>>a powerful position! :)
>>
>>Oh, Thanks! we'll do our best!
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:44:08, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:35:44, Kevin Strickland wrote:
>>>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:33:25, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>>>>Another reason not to have big prize funds:
>>>>>>>It would encourage cheating.  There are enough problems with claims of cheating
>>>>>>>already.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On the other hand, I think that sponsors could be very useful if they could fly
>>>>>>>people to the event who could not normally afford it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Imagine if chess engines from Uruguay and Africa could be present.  Wouldn't it
>>>>>>>be nice if New Zealand and Australia and Viet Nam could be represented?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I pretty much guarantee that you will get as many participants as free trips
>>>>>>>that you can arrange.  So if you can cough up 100 plane fares, you will have 100
>>>>>>>entrants for sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am absolutely sure I can arrange a _few_ plane tickets. But 100 seems like an
>>>>>>aweful lot of begging.
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't try to spent money which isn't there yet. If you manage to organize
>>>>>a big event, sure the europeans will come. I will at least.
>>>>>
>>>>>Here is the problem: i won't come if nothing is at stake. I don't mean
>>>>>a few beers then or a prize. I don't come for a price. But an ACM
>>>>>title. If i play there i expect to see Bob in person for example,
>>>>>and Bruce, i don't travel over the ocean to face a few operators or
>>>>>remote playing programs. In fact i've never seen Bob in living person!
>>>>>
>>>>>Whatever you say, the european programs right now dominate the world champs.
>>>>>
>>>>>This world champs number 1 to 5 were european. 3 of them even actually
>>>>>living within 200KM from maastricht (quest, diep, shredder from
>>>>>which shredder is living closest to maastricht). Junior
>>>>>team travelled all from Israel and is doing that each year. Chance for
>>>>>a world champ tournament in israel is real small, though i would go there.
>>>>
>>>>Here in Bar-Ilan University (Israel) we're trying to organize a WMCCC possibly
>>>>in 2004.
>>>>
>>>>Omid.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>2003 is graz, perhaps you can organize 2004 a world champs in USA?
>>>>>
>>>>>All you need is a sponsor and a location to keep it. The ICGA will take
>>>>>care of the rest (including robbing the local bank).
>>>>>
>>>>>then all europeans for sure will go to USA. No need for plane tickets.
>>>>>I happily pay for one to play in USA.
>>>>>
>>>>>i bet Peter McKenzie will be real happy if a tournament gets held in USA
>>>>>too, Instead of 24 hours he only needs to travel like 9 hours by plane
>>>>>then ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>Best regards,
>>>>>Vincent



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