Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 11:08:27 07/18/02
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On July 18, 2002 at 10:26:49, Omid David wrote: they do not earn on olympiads, they do earn on world champs, so they care shit for olympiads. >On July 18, 2002 at 09:58:03, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On July 18, 2002 at 06:32:22, Omid David wrote: >> >>You can get it cheaper of course if you don't host the >>rest of the olympiad. However icca will have a major problem >>because 2003 isn't going to host olympiads either. Also >>majority of participants at olympiads are complete beginners >>who should start buying a few computerchess books and magazines. >> >>majority i had to explain to what alfabeta search is :) >> >>So you don't need them! >> > >Did they decide to hold the olympiad annually too?! I thought they just changed >WMCCC to open hardware. > > > >>>On July 18, 2002 at 05:35:21, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On July 17, 2002 at 06:21:34, Omid David wrote: >>>> >>>>this is great news. note the word 'micro' is dropped, so >>>>we can all join an open hardware contest in israel in 2004, >>>>this is great news!! >>>> >>>>Now try to get it a bit cheaper from David, because they >>>>don't have a sponsor yet for 2004, which brings you in >>>>a powerful position! :) >>> >>>Oh, Thanks! we'll do our best! >>> >>> >>>> >>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:44:08, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:35:44, Kevin Strickland wrote: >>>>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 18:33:25, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>>>>>>>Another reason not to have big prize funds: >>>>>>>>It would encourage cheating. There are enough problems with claims of cheating >>>>>>>>already. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On the other hand, I think that sponsors could be very useful if they could fly >>>>>>>>people to the event who could not normally afford it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Imagine if chess engines from Uruguay and Africa could be present. Wouldn't it >>>>>>>>be nice if New Zealand and Australia and Viet Nam could be represented? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I pretty much guarantee that you will get as many participants as free trips >>>>>>>>that you can arrange. So if you can cough up 100 plane fares, you will have 100 >>>>>>>>entrants for sure. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I am absolutely sure I can arrange a _few_ plane tickets. But 100 seems like an >>>>>>>aweful lot of begging. >>>>>> >>>>>>Don't try to spent money which isn't there yet. If you manage to organize >>>>>>a big event, sure the europeans will come. I will at least. >>>>>> >>>>>>Here is the problem: i won't come if nothing is at stake. I don't mean >>>>>>a few beers then or a prize. I don't come for a price. But an ACM >>>>>>title. If i play there i expect to see Bob in person for example, >>>>>>and Bruce, i don't travel over the ocean to face a few operators or >>>>>>remote playing programs. In fact i've never seen Bob in living person! >>>>>> >>>>>>Whatever you say, the european programs right now dominate the world champs. >>>>>> >>>>>>This world champs number 1 to 5 were european. 3 of them even actually >>>>>>living within 200KM from maastricht (quest, diep, shredder from >>>>>>which shredder is living closest to maastricht). Junior >>>>>>team travelled all from Israel and is doing that each year. Chance for >>>>>>a world champ tournament in israel is real small, though i would go there. >>>>> >>>>>Here in Bar-Ilan University (Israel) we're trying to organize a WMCCC possibly >>>>>in 2004. >>>>> >>>>>Omid. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>2003 is graz, perhaps you can organize 2004 a world champs in USA? >>>>>> >>>>>>All you need is a sponsor and a location to keep it. The ICGA will take >>>>>>care of the rest (including robbing the local bank). >>>>>> >>>>>>then all europeans for sure will go to USA. No need for plane tickets. >>>>>>I happily pay for one to play in USA. >>>>>> >>>>>>i bet Peter McKenzie will be real happy if a tournament gets held in USA >>>>>>too, Instead of 24 hours he only needs to travel like 9 hours by plane >>>>>>then ;) >>>>>> >>>>>>Best regards, >>>>>>Vincent
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