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Subject: Re: What's the best motherboard combination to use with AMD?(best for chess)

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 04:36:53 07/19/02

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On July 19, 2002 at 05:17:03, David Dory wrote:

>On July 19, 2002 at 04:03:10, David Dory wrote:
>
>>On July 19, 2002 at 03:28:03, Terry Ripple wrote:
>>
>>>Thinking of building my next pc in the very near future, but i want to build one
>>>for the best bang for your dollar and it's use will mainly be for chess
>>>analysis! I thought that i could get some opinions which will guide me in the
>>>right directions toward this goal. Due to job related i haven't been able to
>>>keep up on the best benchmarks etc.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance for your suggestions!
>>>
>>>Best Regards,
>>>           Terry
>>
>
>
>Terry - This is the post I was referring to, sort of got buried so I thought I'd
>bring it on up here:
>
>(Aaron's recommendations are at the end of the post)
>
>
>On July 18, 2002 at 08:38:16, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>I have been offered a P4-2.53 with 533 bus. Are there any tests showing how this
>>processor does in chess compared with the AMD?
>>
>>Any information will be welcome.
>>
>>Thanks, Enrique
>
>AthlonXP 2200+ (1.8GHz) (and even the 2100+ @ 1.73ghz) is faster than the
>P4-2.53GHz in chess. Right now the best bet is to get an Epox 8K3A, AthlonXP
>2200+ (1.8GHz, 0.13 micron), Thermalright SLK-800 (best heatsink/fan), and the
>fastest Corsair ram available. You'd be able to run 2GHz air-cooled at 200fsb
>(400DDR) without problems.
>
>The 2100+ & 2200+ (both stock) can beat the P4-2.53 in basically everything if
>you optimize everything properly in the bios (ram timings, AGP, etc). As I said
>in previous posts.. places like Tomshardware & anandtech.com do NOT optimize
>them at all. Tomshardwares' overclocked AthlonXP 1.9GHz was slower than my
>properly setup 1900+ at 1.6GHz. Overclocked to 1.86Ghz @ 155fsb(310DDR) blew the
>doors off everything they tested. Why? Like I said.. They don't optimize
>the Athlon systems. It's not hard, only takes a few seconds. If you think my box
>is fast.. thats nothing. People are running 2GHz (2200+'s) with AthlonXP's now,
>200fsb(400DDR) (and I'm only at 155fsb(310DDR)). They have the KT333 chipset, I
>have the KT266a, etc. My box still beats the P4-2.53.
>
>Now, lets bring price into this. My box is faster than the P4-2.53. Epox 8K3A +
>2200+ beats it even more.. at 2GHz w/ air it beats the 'hell' out of it. With
>that in mind...
>
>AthlonXP 2200+ = $211
>Epox 8K3A      = $68
>Thermalright SLK-800 = $50
>512mb Corsair PC3200 = $179
>Total: $508
>
>Pentium4 2.53GHz = $597
>Abit TH7 board   = $104
>Thermalright Ax-478 = $28
>512mb PC1066 RDRAM = $379
>Total: $1108

I am still amazed that this price hasn't come down.  I bought my 2.53Gz CPU for
$612, a few months ago.

Surely Intel isn't selling *that* many.

>Pay over twice the ammount for a system slower than the AthlonXP. Not a wise
>decision.
>If anyone wants to see FritzMarks of a 2.1Ghz AthlonXP take a look at..
>ftp://speedycpu.dyndns.org/pub/chess/xp-fritz7.jpg &
>ftp://speedycpu.dyndns.org/pub/chess/xp-fritzold.jpg
>These screenshots were from my 1900+ (1.6GHz) at 2.1GHz via flourinert and dry
>ice.
>
>Remember, AthlonXP 2200+'s can do this with AIR cooling.
>The Epox 8K3A doesn't need to have the vcore voltage modified via soldering
>a resistor to Vfb on the voltage regulator.. They've already allowed up to 2.2v
>w/o needing to modify the board. By far the best/fastest board to get. Now, if I
>only had $508.. :)
>
>
>
>Enjoy!
>David



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