Author: Uri Blass
Date: 07:29:23 07/19/02
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On July 19, 2002 at 10:20:19, Uri Blass wrote: >On July 19, 2002 at 10:06:37, pavel wrote: > >>On July 19, 2002 at 09:54:08, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>world championship. >>> >>>I suggest that the rules can say that the games are >>>played under winboard(pondering off,animation off). >>> >>>Every 2 programs can play 100 or even more games between >>>them so the total number of games of every program can be >>>at least 5000. >>> >>>I believe that we may get significant results >>>by that idea. >>> >>>Uri >> >>what would the average depth be? > >Maybe depth 4. > >>what about loosing on time? > >Time is part of the game. > >I ran a match against amyan on my p800(in 1 second >per game 60% of the games were won on time and amyan won >30.5-9.5). > >In 2 second per game no game was won on time and amyan won 32-8 > >The longest game took 93 moves and amyan blundered >by resigning. > >2 seconds per game on 800 is eqvivalent to 1 second >per game on fast hardware if the programs have no bugs >so they can avoid losing on time. > >I believe that programmers who participate are going to tune >their programs for the event so they can avoid >losing on time at least in 90% of the cases. > >>IMO more than 50% of the games will lost on time. >>Even if it's not 50%, a good percentage of games will be lost on time. >>Than it won't really be a measurement of strength, but rather a measurement of >>time management capability, and having a very very good book that will make most >>of the moves for you within seconds. > >I do not think that a good book is important here. > >tactics is the most important thing and you can play >even lines like 1.e4 h6 and win if you >are strong at tactics > >Uri I forgot to add that I used amyan 1.521 in my match and it is possible that amya1.531 can do better. Some more results at 1 second per game: Movei-tscp 38.5-1.5 Movei-Ufim143 22.5-17.5 I found that some programs like Genesis or Monarch lose on time very fast at 1 second per game but I believe that in most cases the best programs at standard time control can win after relatively small change in the program. I do not believe that some programs in the level of 2100-2200 at standard time control can win the championship of 1 second per game if the programmers of the top programs take the task seriously. Uri
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