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Subject: Re: What's the best motherboard combination to use with AMD?(best for chess)

Author: Ed Panek

Date: 07:48:39 07/19/02

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On July 19, 2002 at 07:42:15, Aaron Gordon wrote:

>On July 19, 2002 at 03:55:00, John Smith wrote:
>
>>epox 8k3a.  Can't be beat for price and performance.  Www.newegg.com has em for
>>$ 89 plus $10 shipping fed exp.
>>
>>Has voltage settings in bios up to 2.20 so you can crank up the amd processor
>>till it can't take it no more and begs for mercy.
>
>Need to be pretty careful with the voltage on the 0.13 micron AthlonXP's. I
>wouldn't go above 2.05v or so. Would create too much heat in a small area. You'd
>need one of the Thermalright heatsinks (or perhaps the Alpha 8045 or MC462).
>Thermalright SLK-800 would be best though. Should be available in perhaps a week
>or two.
>
>As I was saying about the heat output in a small area. The current Palomino core
>is 128mm². Thoroughbred core is 80mm². The AthlonXP (Palomino, 1.75v, 0.18um)
>2100+  is 72 watts where as the AthlonXP (Thoroughbred, 1.65v, 0.13um) 2100+ is
>67.9 watts. Now according to this everything looks fine.. just slap it in and
>it'll run cooler. Unfortunately not. Some of you may know where I am going with
>this..
>
>This would mean the Palomino has a power dissipation of 0.5625 watts/mm². The
>Thoroughbred would be 0.84875 watts/mm². While it appears at first (due to a
>lower wattage) it'd run cooler in all actuality you'd need one heck of a copper
>heatsink. I'd like to see some sort of silver heat spreader put on those chips
>or perhaps even silver bottomed heatsinks however those would be rather
>expensive.. :) Best bet would be to make some small silver heat spreaders..
>perhaps have them sealed to the core via Arctic Silver 3 & epoxy.. lap it
>totally flat. Should work great.
>
>Anyway, be careful if you overclock. Make sure you use silver based compound &
>remove ALL thermal pads from the heatsinks. It comes off best I've found w/
>lighter fluid. Just make sure you wipe the heatsink down before installing it :)
>Also remember.. don't push the 0.13's more than 2.05v, the older 0.18's can do
>2.2v easily though.


Expect things to get only worse.....The smaller the chip the more wattage per mm
needs to disapate..so its worse as chips get smaller. Maybe soon we will see 2
chips per die...A multiprocessor PC with one socket!


Ed



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