Author: Aaron Tay
Date: 13:05:40 07/19/02
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On July 19, 2002 at 15:43:15, Russell Reagan wrote: >On July 19, 2002 at 15:29:04, pavel wrote: > >>I ussually see that you don't show a little bit of respect for most of the >>old-timers in this forum. > >I don't give respect based on what someone has done for computer chess. That's >not how respect is earned. I respect Bob because I think he's a good guy, not >because he has contributed to computer chess. I respect Bruce because he is >always level headed (this is another perfect example), and not because he has >produced a strong engine in Ferret or because he has provided very good >resources for learning about computer chess on his website. Apart from seeing >Mogens' name on the top of the Winboard Forum, I have no idea who he is, so I >have no opinion of him except based upon what I read from him. When (in my mind) >Kevin seemed like he was the good guy and Mogens was calling him on his bluff, >it seemed rather bullyish, and since that's about the extent of my dealings with >him, my opinion of him wasn't very high. Whenever everyone tells you X,Y,Z are respected old timers, it usually means they usually speak sense.. They could be wrong, but when i see so many of them expressing doubts, I would start to wonder. >Do you respect Bobby Fischer? I don't. He's done more for chess in America than >any other player ever, and he's right up there in terms of improving chess >worldwide, getting higher prizes and such. Yeah, but we are talking about responsible guys who have not only contributed greatly to the community and have so far shown no sign of being crazy :) >>If I am not wrong, you are somewhat new in this forum, it wouldn't hurt too >>much, if you would do a little research about someone, before accusing them >>(Andrew and Mogens), of something rather stupid. >> >>If you take out the "them-being-european" thingie out of your mind, than >>everything makes good sense. > >That's how it seemed at the time. Hate mail from Europeans, Europeans kicking >the North American while he was down. Obviously I was blind to what was really >going on, and they weren't as gullable as I, but that's how I saw it at the >time. Like the Euros wanted to snuff out any chance of there being a tournament >outside of Europe. Looking back on it, yes, it's a little "out there". No offence, but you were also involed in that "spamming incident" that somehow degenerated into a Europe versus America debate in the Winboard forum, which leads me to wonder if you have some kind of issues about this.. >As far as doing research about someone before I call them on something, I don't >think it makes a difference. If a new guy says something stupid or an old timer >says something stupid, it doesn't make much difference to me. Well the problem is if there are guys who normally don't say stupid things, start to say things that sound stupid to you and ALL of them does that, perhaps you might start to reconsider your stand? >Russell
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