Author: Uri Blass
Date: 13:01:51 07/20/02
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On July 20, 2002 at 15:43:03, stuart taylor wrote: >On July 19, 2002 at 11:14:13, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On July 19, 2002 at 10:31:09, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>>On July 19, 2002 at 10:24:36, stuart taylor wrote: >>> >>>>On July 19, 2002 at 09:54:08, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>world championship. >>>>> >>>>>I suggest that the rules can say that the games are >>>>>played under winboard(pondering off,animation off). >>>>> >>>>>Every 2 programs can play 100 or even more games between >>>>>them so the total number of games of every program can be >>>>>at least 5000. >>>>> >>>>>I believe that we may get significant results >>>>>by that idea. >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>> >>>>Somewhat significant, I believe. Even if humans can do something decent in Blitz >>>>timing, they would not be in any way to comparable to computers if they had only >>>>1 second per move. But computers can reach a good few plies in that time, and >>>>play very advanced tactics. No stupid mistakes CAN be made after a whole second. >>>>S.Taylor >>>Sorry, I made a mistake! One second per move, I see, was never a question. That >>>would be great time for anyprogram to do almost anything decent. >>> But I thought that one second per game meant much more than a second, as any >>>move can take UP TO a second without being counted as anything at all, and ONE >>>move is allowed one-to-two seconds. That is how things used to be, I think, if >>>not now also. >>>S.Taylor >> >>Programs that are designed correctly have no problem >>to play 1 second per game under winboard without losing >>on time. >> >>Uri > >I meant, Doesn't one second per game allow up to .99 of a second for every >single move? (as less than one whole second is not counted as anything at all). >S.Taylor No Computers know to count time better. Even 0.01 second is counted. I am not sure if it is the minimal time or if the computer can count even less than it but I suspect that it is the minimal time. Here is some debug file under winboard 13059 <first : 2 -10 0 114 b8c6 b1c3 13059 <first : 2 -9 0 155 d7d5 13059 <first : 2 -4 0 199 d7d5 b1c3 13059 <first : 2 -3 0 295 d8g5 13059 <first : 2 0 1 353 d8g5 g2g4 13059 <first : 2 0 1 365 d8g5 g2g4 13059 <first : 3 31 1 772 d8g5 e2g4 b8c6 13059 <first : 3 31 1 976 d8g5 e2g4 b8c6 13059 <first : 4 22 2 2367 d8g5 g2g3 b8c6 b1c3 13069 <first : 4 22 3 3350 d8g5 g2g3 b8c6 b1c3 You can see that the time is constant and suddenly jumps by 0.01 seconds from 13.059 to 13.069. Uri
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