Author: Vine Smith
Date: 05:05:30 07/21/02
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On July 20, 2002 at 22:15:34, martin fierz wrote: >On July 20, 2002 at 20:25:15, Jim Monaghan wrote: > >>Um, .... Martin the diagram is OK. You're looking at the position at Black's >>17th move. I had posted correctly from the game at Black's 19th move. Van Wely >>had played the manouvre ... Bh6+ and ... Bxd2+. So the White bishop at c3 is >>"gone". > >oops, i missed that intermezzo :-) > >>I had just thought that taking the WR, which proved so valuable in the >>concluding attack was the better piece to capture than the WB. > >i remember seeing this game commented, but it's too long ago and i don't >remember anything. probably there was some analysis on taking the rook instead >of the bishop there... i found a webpage where an italian FM comments the game, >(http://www.messaggerie.it/commenti/shiwel00.html) saying that taking the rook >was better and that it is unclear (meaning: "i have no idea who is better >here"). anyway, he's a weak FM and i wouldn't believe what he says :-) > >since black never repeated this line i would guess this position has to be good >for white. then again, maybe this is the type of position black players are not >willing to play, because the slightest mistake will kill you. i can't see >anything clear for white in the final position. probably black will go 20...a5 >again 21.Bf1 (to stop Ra6) and now fritz likes Kd8 and thinks black is a bit >better. hmm. new in chess magazine, anyone? > >aloha > martin The issue of New In Chess which featured the Istanbul Olympiad did not include the Shirov - Van Wely game, so I looked this up in Informant #80, where it's very lightly annotated by Van Wely. Pertinent to the three questions posed at the start of this thread, 16. Qg3 is given without comment, 16...Qxh1 is marked as a novelty, with a note regarding the previously seen 16...Bh6+ seemingly meant to indicate that this move is inadequate (citing a 1:0 result from Shirov - Topalov, Wijk aan Zee 2001), and 19...Qxg2 is marked as a blunder, "??", with a brief note showing 19...Qxd1 20. Kxd1 and then the compensation symbol. After 21. f4, the position is assessed as winning for White, and that's the extent of the commentary for the entire game. Regards, Vine Smith
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