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Subject: Re: A possible DB analysis move

Author: John Merlino

Date: 16:31:10 07/23/02

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On July 23, 2002 at 18:32:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>A few years ago, Komputer Korner had a "correspondence kup" match with Crafty,
>chessmaster and some other programs, playing a correspondence tournament.  In
>that match, Crafty found a wild sacrifice to play against Chessmaster, I think
>it was Nf6.  After searching for 24 hours or whatever the time limit was, Crafty
>saw a draw score.  And it saw a draw score for the next couple of moves.
>
>Right after Crafty played that move, Hsu sent me an email saying "brilliant
>move".  I told him Crafty only saw a draw.  He said "let it keep searching...
>DB Jr saw +2.5 very quickly."  Sure enough, a few moves later Crafty realized
>it was not just drawing, it was winning easily.
>
>I will try to find the game.  If anybody has it, perhaps _that_ position will
>be a good one to see how long it takes today's programs to find the move and
>find it is winning, compared to DB1 back in 1996...
>
>I will see what I can find...
>
>I think the event was called "the komputer kup korrespondence tournament" or
>something similar...

Assuming Pierre's position is correct, Chessmaster 9000, on a PIII-600, finds
Nf6+ in 1:16, giving it a drawing score. After 3:15, the score is positive, but
nowhere near "winning".

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/4	-0.41	11390		19.Bh6 Re6 20.Bg5 Nd4 21.Qd3
0:00	1/5	-0.64	37849		19.Bh6 Re6 20.Be3 Nd4 21.Bxd4 exd4
0:01	1/5	-0.46	67804		19.Bg3 Nd4 20.Qe4 Qb8 21.Rac1 Bf5
0:02	1/6	-0.42	111216		19.Bg3 Nd4 20.Qh5 Be6 21.Bxe5 Bxd5
					22.Bxd4
0:04	1/6	-0.37	203824		19.Bh6 Re6 20.Be3 Nd4 21.Bxd4 Bxd4
0:06	1/7	-0.56	341780		19.Bh6 Re6 20.Be3 Nd4 21.Bxd4 exd4
					22.Rac1 Re5
0:13	1/7	-0.52	692298		19.Re1 Kh8 20.Nc3 Qc7 21.Bxe5 Rxe5
					22.Rxe5 Qxe5 23.Qxc6
0:16	1/7	-0.35	936839		19.Be3 Nd4 20.Bxd4 Bxd4 21.Nf6+
					gxf6 22.Bd5 Bxf2+ 23.Qxf2
0:25	1/8	-0.16	1540653		19.Be3 Be6 20.Rac1 Kh8 21.Bxc5
					bxc5 22.Rxc5 Nd4 23.Qa3 Rac8 24.Rdc1
					Rxc5 25.Rxc5
0:48	1/9	-0.41	3195206		19.Be3 Be6 20.Rac1 Rad8 21.Bxc5
					bxc5 22.Rc2 Bxd5 23.Bxd5 e4
1:02	1/9	-0.30	4191467		19.Bh6 Re6 20.Be3 Nd4 21.Bxd4 Bxd4
					22.Rac1 e4 23.Qe2
1:16	1/9	0.00	5345593		19.Nf6+ gxf6 20.Bd5 Bd7 21.Bh6
					Bf8 22.Qxf6 Re6 23.Bxe6 fxe6 24.Qg5+
					Kh8 25.Qf6+ Kg8
1:35	1/10	0.00	6997334		19.Nf6+ gxf6 20.Bd5 Bd7 21.Bh6
					Bf8 22.Qxf6 Re6 23.Bxe6 fxe6 24.Qg5+
					Kh8 25.Qf6+ Kg8
3:15	2/11	0.27	15441083	19.Nf6+ gxf6 20.Bd5 Bd7 21.Bh6
					Bf8 22.Qxf6 Re6 23.Bxe6 Bxe6 24.Ra3
					Bxh6 25.Rg3+ Kf8 26.Qxh6+ Ke7 27.Qh4+
					f6 28.Qxh7+ Bf7
10:15	3/12	0.36	53030403	19.Nf6+ gxf6 20.Bd5 Bd7 21.Bh6
					Bf8 22.Qxf6 Re6 23.Bxe6 Bxe6 24.Ra3
					Ne7 25.Bxf8 Rxf8 26.Rg3+ Ng6 27.Qxe5

jm



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