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Subject: Re: A possible DB analysis move

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 16:41:37 07/23/02

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On July 23, 2002 at 19:18:15, Pierre Bourget wrote:

>On July 23, 2002 at 18:32:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>A few years ago, Komputer Korner had a "correspondence kup" match with Crafty,
>>chessmaster and some other programs, playing a correspondence tournament.  In
>>that match, Crafty found a wild sacrifice to play against Chessmaster, I think
>>it was Nf6.  After searching for 24 hours or whatever the time limit was, Crafty
>>saw a draw score.  And it saw a draw score for the next couple of moves.
>>
>>Right after Crafty played that move, Hsu sent me an email saying "brilliant
>>move".  I told him Crafty only saw a draw.  He said "let it keep searching...
>>DB Jr saw +2.5 very quickly."  Sure enough, a few moves later Crafty realized
>>it was not just drawing, it was winning easily.
>>
>>I will try to find the game.  If anybody has it, perhaps _that_ position will
>>be a good one to see how long it takes today's programs to find the move and
>>find it is winning, compared to DB1 back in 1996...
>>
>>I will see what I can find...
>>
>>I think the event was called "the komputer kup korrespondence tournament" or
>>something similar...
>
>I think this is the position:
>
>[D]r1b1r1k1/1q3ppp/ppn5/2bNp3/P4B2/5Q1P/BP3PP1/R2R2K1 w - - 0 19
>
>The gamescore:
>
>[Event "1997 Korrespondence Kup"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "1997"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Crafty"]
>[Black "CM5000"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>
>1. Nf3 d5 2. d4 Nf6 3. c4 dxc4 4. e3 e6 5. Bxc4 c5 6. O-O a6 7. a4 Nc6 8. Qe2
>Qc7 9. Nc3 Bd6 10. Rd1 O-O 11. h3 Re8 12. dxc5 Bxc5 13. e4 Nd7 14. Ba2 b6 15. e5
>Ndxe5 16. Bf4 Nxf3+ 17. Qxf3 e5 18. Nd5 Qb7 19. Nf6+ gxf6 20. Bh6 Bf8 21. Bd5
>Bd7 22. Ra3 Bxh6 23. Qxf6 Re6 24. Bxe6 Bxe6 25. Rg3+ Kf8 26. Qxh6+ Ke7 27. Qh4+
>Kf8 28. Qxh7 Nd4 29. Qh8+ Ke7 30. Qxe5 Nf5 31. Rc3 Rc8 1-0


Takes Crafty 7 minutes to find the draw score on a 950 MHz Athlon.
Not sure how long until a big gain comes into view:

White(1): epdpfga \cr-cm.epd cr-cm.out
PFGA: EPD record: 1
middle-game phase
              clearing hash tables
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 16:39 (16:39)
         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
                5->   0.26  -0.48   1. Bg3 Bd4 2. Rd2 e4 3. Qh5
                6     0.35  -0.57   1. Bg3 Bd4 2. Nc3 e4 3. Nxe4 Bxb2
                6     0.69  -0.28   1. Be3 Bxe3 2. Qxe3 b5 3. Qg5 h6 4.
                                    Nf6+ Kh8
                6->   0.78  -0.28   1. Be3 Bxe3 2. Qxe3 b5 3. Qg5 h6 4.
                                    Nf6+ Kh8
                7     1.41  -0.31   1. Be3 Bxe3 2. Qxe3 b5 3. axb5 axb5
                                    4. Qg5 h6 5. Nf6+ Kh8
                7->   2.00  -0.31   1. Be3 Bxe3 2. Qxe3 b5 3. axb5 axb5
                                    4. Qg5 h6 5. Nf6+ Kh8
                8     2.94  -0.30   1. Be3 Bxe3 2. Qxe3 b5 3. Qg3 Re6 4.
                                    Bb3 bxa4 5. Rxa4 Rd6
                8->   6.09  -0.30   1. Be3 Bxe3 2. Qxe3 b5 3. Qg3 Re6 4.
                                    Bb3 bxa4 5. Rxa4 Rd6
                9    11.13  -0.33   1. Be3 Be6 2. Bxc5 bxc5 3. Rd2 Rab8
                                    4. Qg3 Red8 5. Nf6+ Kh8 6. Rxd8+ Nxd8
                                    7. Bxe6 Nxe6
                9->  25.03  -0.33   1. Be3 Be6 2. Bxc5 bxc5 3. Rd2 Rab8
                                    4. Qg3 Red8 5. Nf6+ Kh8 6. Rxd8+ Nxd8
                                    7. Bxe6 Nxe6
               10    42.69  -0.47   1. Be3 Be6 2. Rac1 Bxe3 3. Qxe3 Rac8
                                    4. Qf3 Red8 5. Bb3 Bxd5 6. Bxd5 h6
               10     1:34  -0.29   1. Bh6 Re6 2. Be3 Bd4 3. Bc4 Bd7 4.
                                    Rd2 Rc8 5. Rad1 Rd6
               10->   1:53  -0.29   1. Bh6 Re6 2. Be3 Bd4 3. Bc4 Bd7 4.
                                    Rd2 Rc8 5. Rad1 Rd6
               11     2:16  -0.30   1. Bh6 Re6 2. Be3 Bd4 3. Bc4 Bd7 4.
                                    Qe4 Bxe3 5. fxe3 Na5 6. Nf6+ Rxf6 7.
                                    Qxb7 Nxb7 8. Rxd7
               11->   4:34  -0.30   1. Bh6 Re6 2. Be3 Bd4 3. Bc4 Bd7 4.
                                    Qe4 Bxe3 5. fxe3 Na5 6. Nf6+ Rxf6 7.
                                    Qxb7 Nxb7 8. Rxd7
               12     5:35  -0.37   1. Bh6 Re6 2. Be3 Bd4 3. Bc4 h6 4.
                                    Qe4 Na5 5. Be2 Nb3 6. Ra3 Rd6 7. Rxb3
                                    Qxd5 8. Qxd5 Rxd5 9. Bxd4 exd4 10.
                                    Rxb6
               12     6:57   0.00   1. Nf6+ gxf6 2. Bh6 Bf8 3. Bd5 Bd7
                                    4. Qxf6 Re6 5. Bxe6 Bxe6 6. Qg5+ Kh8
                                    7. Bxf8 Rxf8 8. Qf6+ Kg8 9. Qg5+ Kh8
               12->   9:27   0.00   1. Nf6+ gxf6 2. Bh6 Bf8 3. Bd5 Bd7
                                    4. Qxf6 Re6 5. Bxe6 Bxe6 6. Qg5+ Kh8
                                    7. Bxf8 Rxf8 8. Qf6+ Kg8 9. Qg5+ Kh8
               13    10:00   1/46*  1. Nf6+



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