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Subject: Re: A possible DB analysis move

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:11:22 07/23/02

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On July 23, 2002 at 20:07:11, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On July 23, 2002 at 18:32:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>A few years ago, Komputer Korner had a "correspondence kup" match with Crafty,
>>chessmaster and some other programs, playing a correspondence tournament.  In
>>that match, Crafty found a wild sacrifice to play against Chessmaster, I think
>>it was Nf6.  After searching for 24 hours or whatever the time limit was, Crafty
>>saw a draw score.  And it saw a draw score for the next couple of moves.
>>
>>Right after Crafty played that move, Hsu sent me an email saying "brilliant
>>move".  I told him Crafty only saw a draw.  He said "let it keep searching...
>>DB Jr saw +2.5 very quickly."  Sure enough, a few moves later Crafty realized
>>it was not just drawing, it was winning easily.
>>
>>I will try to find the game.  If anybody has it, perhaps _that_ position will
>>be a good one to see how long it takes today's programs to find the move and
>>find it is winning, compared to DB1 back in 1996...
>>
>>I will see what I can find...
>>
>>I think the event was called "the komputer kup korrespondence tournament" or
>>something similar...
>
>After 12 minutes on a 950 MHz Athlon, Chess Tiger 14 wants to move the Bishop to
>h6:
>
>[D]r1b1r1k1/1q3ppp/ppn5/2bNp3/P4B2/5Q1P/BP3PP1/R2R2K1 w - - ce 10; acd 15; acs
>720; pv Bh6 Re6 Be3 Rb8 Bxc5 bxc5 Nc3 Re7 Rd6 e4 Qg3 Rc7 Rb1 Bf5 Nd5;|Bf4h6
>
>Approximately a draw score.

This will take a while.  But the score will go _way_ up eventually, although
I don't remember how deep Crafty went.  I believe that KK had normalized the
event to 8 hours of pentium pro 200 time.  For those with slower machiens, they
got proportionally more time, based on pre-match benchmarks...

Crafty found Nf6 with 0.00 after a long search.  At the time DB Jr found
it with +2.5 after a couple of minutes.  Crafty got there after a couple of
more moves maybe...



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