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Subject: Thanks for the Info

Author: Nolan Denson

Date: 17:13:25 07/24/02

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Thanks for the Info


On July 24, 2002 at 19:10:09, Mike Byrne wrote:

>On July 24, 2002 at 17:14:48, Nolan Denson wrote:
>
>>Ok from some post that Mike made i realize that i can change the extension
>>values of crafty .... but I am still not sure whats going on.
>>
>>As you can see from below the singular ext for Matrix is set at .58  ... I am
>>not sure if this is bad or good ... So if i wanted to change this value what
>>would the command be or where in the code does the rest of this get change at.
>>
>>I notice that mike changes these values via the crafty.rc file. Where are these
>>values actually effecting crafty ?? Which part of the code ?? Then if anyone has
>>an understanding of the code for singular extension and know where those values
>>are ... please post also.
>>
>>Like i said I am not a programmer ... (but I am learning alot about it by doing
>>these kind of things) .... I want to change the .58 to a different value, and
>>run some test to see what happens. At the end of this message i posted the code
>>for singular extensions as well. Also do you guys that know about this think
>>that the .58 is too low or too high? Mike changes his values via the following
>>commands : via the crafty.rc
>>
>>booster 76 76 225
>>ext in 1
>>ext th 1
>>ext one .75
>>ext pawn .75
>>
>>
>>one-reply extension..................0.75
>>in-check extension...................1.00
>>recapture extension..................0.75
>>pushpp extension.....................0.75
>>mate thrt extension..................0.75
>>singular extension...................0.58
>>one-reply extension..................0.75
>>in-check extension...................1.00
>>recapture extension..................0.75
>>pushpp extension.....................0.75
>>mate thrt extension..................0.75
>>singular extension...................0.58
>>one-reply extension..................0.75
>>in-check extension...................1.00
>>recapture extension..................0.75
>>pushpp extension.....................0.75
>>mate thrt extension..................0.75
>>singular extension...................0.58
>>one-reply extension..................0.75
>>in-check extension...................1.00
>>recapture extension..................0.75
>>pushpp extension.....................0.75
>>mate thrt extension..................0.75
>>singular extension...................0.58
>>
>>
>>Matrix v99.99 (2 cpus)
>>
>>White(1): ext
>>one-reply extension..................0.00
>>in-check extension...................0.00
>>recapture extension..................0.00
>>pushpp extension.....................0.00
>>mate thrt extension..................0.00
>>singular extension...................0.58
>>
>>
>
>
>Hi Nolan -
>
>It's easy to change the extensions via the crafty.rc file.  There was a change
>fron Crafty 17 to Crafty 18 ...
>
>Crafty 17.xx used the following
>
>ext in (in check)
>ext th (mate threat)
>ext rec (recapture)
>ext p (pawn push)
>ext one (one response)
>
>Crafty 18.xx
>ext ch (in check)
>ext ma (mate threat)
>teh other are the same in Crafty 18.xx
>
>The allowables value are from 0 to 1.   Crafty uses partial extensions - so
>value of 1 will extend 1 ply if the condition is met.  A value of .5 will extend
>a 1/2 ply.  Crafty also cuts extension in half when the increment depth is > 2
>ply.  Generally , the default values have been  .75 or 3/4 ply.  I usually
>prefer the either the in-check or threat (or both to be set at 1).  If you start
>adding extension, you generally have to lower the number.  Very high numbers may
>do well in certain positions - but it can do horrible in other positions if
>there is a "lot" going on.
>
>I used to be very high on the recapture extension, but with the faster hardware
>and the quiesce rountine - I am not convinced it always needed - but there are
>certainly some positions that it helps - in other positions it just helps to
>blow up the search.
>
>There is no one right answer - I usually prefer them to be higher.
>
>Mike



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