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Subject: Re: No layman's guiding to psychonalysis - read this post, Rolf.

Author: David Dory

Date: 15:44:07 07/25/02

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On July 25, 2002 at 16:37:59, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On July 25, 2002 at 13:15:45, David Dory wrote:
>
>>>>>>On July 23, 2002 at 11:58:42, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>It's indecent and insulting to use metaphors of being able to follow a cow
>>>>>>>walking down the street _in case of a physically handicapped_! You haven't
>>>>>>>learned your kindergarden lesson good enough yet.
>>
>>No insult is given by the "follow the cow" metaphor. It is just an example of a
>>slow moving mind when a faster one is needed. We have all "followed the cow"
>>from time to time.
>
>I don't know if you are from the USA, anyway, most of the readers here come from
>the US, and Bob Hyatt surely does come from there, so let me be quite clear
>about this - plays with language or on the basis of idiomatic specialties in the
>communication with foreigners, and I'm a foreigner, I'm not a native English
>speaker, is impolite. In my case this walking behind a cow get a drift if you
>know that walking is not my favorite passtime as a physical handicapped. Bob
>knows this since long. BTW this sort of direct ad hominem has a long tradition
>in our communication. If I said ROFL, because I liked the special movement I
>could never do and because it looks so similar to my name Bob used to answer
>"Rotten" on the floor - now isn't it nice?
>
>You get it I hope.

Rolf, I get it - and you know I'm in the US, also. You and Bob have shared quite
a few "impolite" words - but that is in the past (I remember rgcc) - and I hope
that you were serious about the "new" Rolf you wrote about here in CCC sometime
back.

"Walking behind the cow" has NOTHING to do with physical walking. You know it, I
know it, and it is NOT an insult. I do it regularly, although sometimes it's a
darn TURTLE I'm unable to keep pace with! :)

Rolf, you know you can't persuade anyone that the DB team DID cheat unless they
already believe it.

Likewise, I can not persuade you or anyone else that the DB team DID NOT cheat,
unless they already believe it.

Debating it here (where everyone has already got their mind made up one way or
the other), is a complete waste of time. About as important as page 7 of last
month's newspaper, don't you agree?

Forget about your problems with Hyatt. They aren't nearly as bad as you have
made yourself to believe. Trust me, English IS my first language. (Almost my
only language)

It may surprise you to find out that on CCC, moderators are not held to a higher
standard than anyone else. I have actually read the CCC charter!

If Hyatt said your comments were "idiotic" - I would take that to mean your
comments have gone off the topic at hand and away from the objective part of
that original topic.

I confess I don't read a lot of your posts because they are too long and too
much off-topic or subjective. Since you don't know English really well, it would
help a lot if you would be brief with your remarks. On your longer posts, I
usually can't figure out what you mean, really. I understand some of it, but
certainly not ALL of it.

You can not expect Americans to speak differently to you - because you're a
non-native speaker. We don't know how - have not had that experiece like you do
in Europe. Idiom's, allegories, metaphors, analogies, etc., will ALL be used in
our posts - because they're built into a lifetime of using English and not
easily torn out.

If I were to go to a German chess forum, I would face EXACTLY these same
problems. The posters there wouldn't change the way they write just because a
limited language reader would be reading it.

I hope you can enjoy the CCC forum, and your warm European Summer weather, too!
And let old insults be forgot "and never brought to mind".



regards,

David



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