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Subject: Re: What is Ruffian?

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 01:27:05 07/26/02

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On July 26, 2002 at 04:13:16, Russell Reagan wrote:

>On July 26, 2002 at 03:33:28, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>Information about ruffian(C) (Last disconnected Tue Jul 23 2002 11:49):
>>    Standard    2723        337   110   106   553   2723 (23-Jul-2002)
>>     2: Hardware: Athlon 1.4Ghz
>>
>>As you can see, it is _not_ an Intel CPU, but rather an Athlon. There is
>>_nothing_ unusual here. It is about 300 rating points weaker than a commercial
>>program running on the same hardware.
>
>On ICC Junior runs on a dual 750MHz machine and is rated 2701, Shredder plays on
>a dual 1.26 GHz machine and has a rating of 2713, Fritz plays on a dual 1GHz
>machine and is rated 2768. Ruffian seems to be just as strong as any of the top
>commercial engines. I don't see why you say it's 300 points weaker.
>
>Russell

I just glanced at the top single cpu system blitz rating and saw this:

Information about ManvsMachine(C) (Last disconnected Wed Jul 24 2002 21:55):

              rating [need] win  loss  draw total   best
    Blitz       3277        916    80   166  1162   3327 (15-Jun-2002)

     1: --->>>     CURRENT ENGINE: Yace 0.99.56     <<<---
     2: --->>>     MAN vs MACHINE RATING PROJECT     <<<---
     3: PURPOSE: TO DETERMINE BLITZ RATINGS OF VARIOUS WINBOARD ENGINES IN HUMAN
      PLAY ON ICC.
     4: HARDWARE: 1.0 GHz AMD Athlon, 768 MB RAM, Win 2000 Pro, cable modem
      connection.
     5: SOFTWARE: Winboard 4.2.6, opening book ON (if any), ponder mode ON,
      hashtable = 128(or 96) MB(if user specified), 3/4-man EGTBs only (if
used).
     6: METHOD: Each engine begins with a 2200 estimated blitz rating.  Rated
      blitz against registered & established ICC human players ONLY.  Autocolor.
      MAXIMUM OF 4 CONSECUTIVE GAMES versus the same opponent.
     7: DATA: Games with no final result, <5 moves and adjourned games will be
      discarded.  A minimum of 300 games will be collected.
     8: RESULTS: Game collections and statistics are available at
      http://manvsmachine.blogspot.com
     9: Questions/comments about the Man vs Machine project should be addressed
to
      manvsmachine@winboard.info



And then I made what I thought was a conservative assumption. My mistake. Still,
I see nothing unusual with Ruffian. Even if the hardware were running at half
speed, I would only expect a difference of 50 rating points then if it were a
top commercial program. Instead it is much less than that. The speculation is
not justified.



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