Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 18:54:29 07/27/02
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On July 27, 2002 at 20:40:30, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>On July 27, 2002 at 17:08:48, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On July 27, 2002 at 03:48:46, Andreas St. wrote:
>>
>>>On July 27, 2002 at 03:37:42, John Merlino wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 27, 2002 at 03:24:26, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.chessbase.com/events/games/2002_dortmund/dort10b.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>(2) Topalov,V (2745) - Bareev,E (2726) [C11]
>>>>>Sparkassen sf Playoff Dortmund GER (2), 17.07.2002
>>>>>
>>>>>.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 dxe4 5.Nxe4 Nbd7 6.Nf3 Be7 7.Nxf6+ Bxf6 8.h4 c5
>>>>>9.Qd2 cxd4 10.Nxd4 h6 11.Bxf6 Nxf6 12.Qb4 Nd5 13.Qa3 Qe7 14.Bb5+ Bd7 15.Bxd7+
>>>>>Kxd7 16.Qa4+ Kc7 17.Rh3 a6 18.Rb3 Qc5 19.0-0-0 b5 20.Qa5+ Qb6 21.Qe1 Kb7 22.Qe2
>>>>>Ka7 23.Nxb5+ axb5 24.Rxb5 Qc6 25.Rdxd5 exd5 26.Qe7+ Ka6 27.Rb3 1-0
>>>>>
>>>>>After 22...Ka7
>>>>>
>>>>>[D]r6r/k4pp1/pq2p2p/1p1n4/3N3P/1R6/PPP1QPP1/2KR4 w
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>How quickly does fast hardware and top software, find this combination?
>>>>>
>>>>>Terry
>>>>
>>>>Chessmaster 9000 (top software) on a PIII-600 (not fast hardware) finds the move
>>>>in 40 seconds:
>>>>
>>>>Time Depth Score Positions Moves
>>>>0:00 1/3 0.74 3488 1.Qe5 Rhg8 2.Rg3
>>>>0:00 1/4 0.94 9422 1.Qe5 Rhg8 2.Rf3 Raf8 3.Kb1
>>>>0:00 1/5 0.82 27322 1.Qe5 Rhg8 2.Rf3 Raf8 3.Rg3
>>>>0:02 1/6 1.04 106142 1.Qe5 g6 2.a4 Kb7 3.Kb1 b4 4.Rf3
>>>>0:05 1/7 0.91 319292 1.Qe5 g6 2.a4 b4 3.a5 Qb7 4.Qd6
>>>> Rac8
>>>>0:15 1/8 1.13 1095592 1.Qe5 Rhg8 2.a4 b4 3.a5 Qb7 4.Rg3
>>>> Rad8 5.Rxg7 Rxg7 6.Qxg7
>>>>0:34 1/9 0.99 2547618 1.Qe5 Rhg8 2.Rf3 Qb7 3.Qd6 Rac8
>>>> 4.Nxb5+ Qxb5 5.Rxf7+ Ka8 6.Qxe6
>>>>0:40 1/9 1.71 3109576 1.Nxb5+ axb5 2.Rxb5 Qc6 3.Rdxd5
>>>> exd5 4.Qd3 Rhb8 5.Qa3+ Qa6 6.Ra5
>>>> Rb6 7.Qe7+ Rb7 8.Rxa6+ Kxa6
>>>>0:59 1/10 3.10 4767354 1.Nxb5+ axb5 2.Rxb5 Qc6 3.Rdxd5
>>>> exd5 4.Qe7+ Ka6 5.Rb3 Qb6 6.Rxb6+
>>>> Kxb6 7.Qd6+ Ka7 8.Qc5+ Kb8 9.Qxd5
>>>>2:00 2/11 3.67 10630854 1.Nxb5+ axb5 2.Rxb5 Qc6 3.Rdxd5
>>>> exd5 4.Qe7+ Ka6 5.Rb3 Qb6 6.Rxb6+
>>>> Kxb6 7.Qd6+ Ka7 8.Qxd5 Rhb8 9.Qxf7+
>>>> Rb7
>>>>
>>>>jm
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>my actual CM 8000 "Bleifuss" setting (32mb hash) needs 55 sec. on Athlon XP
>>>2000+
>>>
>>>Analysis by CM Bleifuss:
>>>
>>>1.De5 Thg8 2.Kb1 Tad8
>>> ² (0.57) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
>>>1.De5 Thg8 2.Tf3 Db7 3.Dd6
>>> ± (0.83) Tiefe: 4 00:00:00
>>>1.De5 Thg8 2.Tf3 Db7 3.Sf5 Tad8
>>> ² (0.66) Tiefe: 5 00:00:00
>>>1.De5 g6 2.a4 b4 3.a5 Db7 4.Dd6
>>> ± (1.05) Tiefe: 6 00:00:00 109kN
>>>1.De5 g6 2.a4 b4 3.a5 Db7 4.Dd6 Thc8
>>> ± (0.82) Tiefe: 7 00:00:01 248kN
>>>1.De5 Thg8 2.a4 b4 3.a5 Db7 4.Tg3 Tad8 5.Txg7 Txg7 6.Dxg7
>>> ± (1.10) Tiefe: 8 00:00:07 1659kN
>>>1.De5 g6 2.a4 b4 3.a5 Dc5 4.Txb4 Tac8 5.Ta4 Thd8
>>> ± (1.08) Tiefe: 9 00:00:15 3569kN
>>>1.De5 Thg8 2.Tf3 Db7 3.Sf5 exf5 4.Txd5 Tae8 5.Dxf5 Te1+ 6.Td1 Txd1+ 7.Kxd1
>>> ± (1.08) Tiefe: 10 00:00:42 10189kN
>>>1.Sxb5+ axb5 2.Txb5 Dc6 3.Tdxd5 exd5 4.De7+ Ka6 5.Tb3 Db6 6.Txb6+ Kxb6 7.Dd6+
>>>Ka7 8.Dc5+ Kb8 9.Dxd5
>>> +- (3.42) Tiefe: 10 00:00:55 13612kN
>>>
>>>(Fritz 7, 27.07.2002)
>>>
>>>Greetings
>>>
>>>AS
>>
>>I don't like to stick my neck (and Johan's neck) out too far, but results like
>>this make it look like the CM9000 engine is going to be noticeably superior to
>>the CM8000 engine.
>>
>>jm
>
>Not really, it's simply extending less. So the things it used to
>be better in than some other engines, it no longer can do. the things
>it is better in now, the other engines are even better in.
>
>I won't mention the word 'losing by natural induction', but that's
>what it is. No other words for it. Johan been too lazy last years.
>
>Best regards,
>Vincent
Vincent, all I hear out of your mouth, is Hyatt's Crafty is _weak_ and Johan is
_lazy_ while adding nothing constructive to this thread.
You didn't even use Diep on the position, albeit it's a piece of garbage!
In the future, if you've nothing constructive to contribute, STFU for a change!
Best Regards,
Terry
P.S. Shall I post what you said about Century 4 at ICC, how it was weak in the
endgame? This was last Feb. when it was Century 4 vs Loek van Wely.
You're right, you should watch what you say when kibitzing, you never know
when a reporter might be watching!
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