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Subject: Re: A pair of draws.

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 13:32:53 07/28/02

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That is actually pretty good John!

Are you using tablebases?  I erased all my engines except DJ7 and Crafty, and
using TBs, none got even close to your result.


On July 28, 2002 at 15:08:16, John Merlino wrote:

>On July 28, 2002 at 00:40:23, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>[D]8/8/8/7n/8/7N/3kp1K1/5n2 w - - 0 1
>>
>>Nf1 to draw.  Sure you find Nf1, but do you see the draw?
>
>Chessmaster 9000's eval drops from -6 to less than -1 in one second (on a
>PIII-733). But, due to the material difference, it never reaches 0. Do you
>consider this "seeing the draw"?
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:00	1/4	-8.66	3518		1.Ng5 Ne3+ 2.Kh2 Ng4+ 3.Kg2 Nf4+
>					4.Kg3 e1=Q+ 5.Kxf4
>0:00	1/5	-8.70	21768		1.Ng5 Nf4+ 2.Kh1 Ke3 3.Nf3 Kxf3
>0:00	1/5	-6.72	27786		1.Ng1 Ne3+ 2.Kh2 e1=N 3.Kh1 Nf4
>0:00	2/6	-6.66	44216		1.Ng1 Ne3+ 2.Kh3 Nf4+ 3.Kh2 Ng4+
>					4.Kh1 Nf2+ 5.Kh2 e1=N 6.Kg3 Ke3
>0:01	3/7	-0.93	96257		1.Ng1 Ne3+ 2.Kh3 Nf4+ 3.Kh2 Ng4+
>					4.Kh1 e1=B 5.Nf3+ Ke2 6.Nxe1 Ne3
>0:01	4/8	-0.88	202316		1.Ng1 Ne3+ 2.Kh3 Nf4+ 3.Kh2 Ng4+
>					4.Kh1 e1=B 5.Nf3+ Ke2 6.Nxe1 Nf2+
>					7.Kh2
>0:03	5/9	-0.87	422492		1.Ng1 Ne3+ 2.Kh3 Nf4+ 3.Kh2 Ng4+
>					4.Kh1 e1=B 5.Nf3+ Ke3 6.Nxe1 Kd4
>					7.Nf3+ Kd5
>0:06	6/10	-0.85	940558		1.Ng1 Ne3+ 2.Kh3 Nf4+ 3.Kh2 Ng4+
>					4.Kh1 e1=B 5.Nf3+ Ke3 6.Nxe1 Kd4
>					7.Nd3 Ne6 8.Ne5
>0:14	7/11	-0.85	2201477		1.Ng1 Ne3+ 2.Kh3 Nf4+ 3.Kh2 Ng4+
>					4.Kh1 e1=B 5.Nf3+ Ke3 6.Nxe1 Kd4
>					7.Nd3 Ne6 8.Ne5
>0:35	8/12	-0.83	5509487		1.Ng1 Ne3+ 2.Kh3 Nf4+ 3.Kh2 Ng4+
>					4.Kh1 e1=B 5.Nf3+ Ke3 6.Nxe1 Kd4
>					7.Nd3 Nd5 8.Nf4 Nde3 9.Kg1
>1:18	9/13	-0.83	12514652	1.Ng1 Ne3+ 2.Kh3 Nf4+ 3.Kh2 Ng4+
>					4.Kh1 e1=B 5.Nf3+ Ke3 6.Nxe1 Kd4
>					7.Ng2 Nd3 8.Nf4 Nb4 9.Kg2 Ke4
>
>>[D]8/4kP2/6P1/8/3rB1r1/2P3P1/6PK/8 w - - 0 1
>>
>>Bf5 to draw.  And Bf3 does _not_ work.
>
>Chessmaster 9000 finds Bf5 in 38 seconds:
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:00	4/8	0.28	41338		1.cxd4 Rxe4 2.d5 Rg4 3.d6+ Kf8
>					4.d7 Rd4 5.Kh3 Rxd7 6.Kg4
>0:01	5/9	0.20	75549		1.cxd4 Rxe4 2.d5 Kf8 3.Kh3 Rd4
>					4.g4 Rxd5 5.Kh4
>0:01	6/10	0.20	138893		1.cxd4 Rxe4 2.d5 Kf8 3.Kh3 Rd4
>					4.g4 Rd3+ 5.Kh4 Rxd5 6.g3
>0:03	7/11	0.15	296012		1.cxd4 Rxe4 2.d5 Kf8 3.Kh3 Rd4
>					4.g4 Rxd5 5.Kh4 Rd2 6.Kg3
>0:05	8/12	0.02	574525		1.cxd4 Rxe4 2.d5 Rc4 3.d6+ Kf8
>					4.Kh3 Rd4 5.d7 Rxd7 6.Kg4 Rd2 7.Kf5
>					Rxg2
>0:12	9/13	-0.35	1296042		1.cxd4 Rxe4 2.d5 Rc4 3.d6+ Kf8
>					4.Kh3 Rd4 5.d7 Rxd7 6.Kg4 Rd2 7.Kf5
>					Rxg2 8.g4 Rf2+ 9.Ke5
>0:38	9/13	-0.06	4052590		1.Bf5 Rg5 2.g7 Kxf7 3.g8=Q+ Rxg8
>					4.cxd4 Rd8 5.g4 Kf6 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.Kf2
>					Rxd4 8.Ke3 Rd8
>1:16	10/14	-0.05	8261169		1.Bf5 Rg5 2.g7 Rh5+ 3.Bh3 Kxf7
>					4.cxd4 Kxg7 5.Kg1 Rd5 6.Kf2 Rxd4
>					7.Ke3 Rd1 8.Bf5 Kf6 9.g4
>
>jm



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